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Jokester said:
Getting old :( , was thinking 2020 is miles away, it’s only next year.
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Man Do You realise MATRIX is 20 years old this week ?? That made me feel old and watch MAtrix decoded edition yesterday. Fantastic fan edit :)

Remember like yestarday 1999 drove to underground market wyth my dad. Gotten MATRIX cam recorded on VHS tape. Was re re recorded so many times blured to hell ect. Watched it and was like WoW rewinded watched again. 2 months later was in cinema :D
 
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Random Guy Esq. said:
I think I can do without PCIe 4.0, so will be going with X470 and putting the extra cash into a better GPU. Hopefully some early reviews will test the new processors in the older mobos.
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I bet Hardware Unboxed are really looking forward to testing every combination of CPU and motherboard chipset!
 
A Danish retailer has the Ryzen 3000 and Boards up for pre order

Here are their prices

  • AMD Ryzen 3 3200G – $135
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3400G – $210
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600 – $275
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600X – $345
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3700X – $450
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3800X – $550
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3900X – $690

  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME – $1110
  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS PRO – $375
  • GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO – $325
  • GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X – $255

  • MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE – $930
  • MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION – $645
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI – $285
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS – $255
 
Rossi~ said:
Agree that it’s overkill in terms of power max delivery, but if you spread the load it’ll be cooler and more efficient.
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Genuine question

What are the thoughts on high multiple phases and the new 'response time' for Zen 2

At E3, AMD presentation said they can now shift power states in 1-2ms vs 30ms.

Will many real phases (12+) improve stability over 5+1 doubled etc. as the VRM should be able to better follow the fine grained demand.
Specifically VRMS with a doubler add some extra delay so may not react quite so quickly.
 
Grim5 said:
A Danish retailer has the Ryzen 3000 and Boards up for pre order

Here are their prices

  • AMD Ryzen 3 3200G – $135
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3400G – $210
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600 – $275
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600X – $345
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3700X – $450
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3800X – $550
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3900X – $690

  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME – $1110
  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS PRO – $375
  • GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO – $325
  • GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X – $255

  • MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE – $930
  • MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION – $645
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI – $285
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS – $255
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Surprised a Danish retailer is quoting $ rather than Euro.

I currently favour the Auros PRO, given the Intel version is £160, even £250 ($250) is a stretch.

If that's the real pricing @ $375 / £375, I'll be picking up a 9900K and Z390 Auros pro
 
It's a direct conversion into USD, any taxes is included in the price so the price in America will be lower as they don't have a national sales tax.

I don't know what the taxes are in Denmark
 
Grim5 said:
It's a direct conversion into USD, any taxes is included in the price so the price in America will be lower as they don't have a national sales tax.

I don't know what the taxes are in Denmark
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Vat equivalent is 25%, import duties are inline with EU so same as UK
 
RavenXXX2 said:
WoW DF taking the **** out of ryzen. Intel shilling at its finest.

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That's not only shilling, but full-scale trolling from them... I mean when discussing hardware/new release, they must be more serious and professional, what I heard is oh, yeah, ya, oh, ya, yeah, every second word...
 
Grim5 said:
A Danish retailer has the Ryzen 3000 and Boards up for pre order

Here are their prices

  • AMD Ryzen 3 3200G – $135
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3400G – $210
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600 – $275
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600X – $345
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3700X – $450
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3800X – $550
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3900X – $690

  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME – $1110
  • GIGABYTE X570 AORUS PRO – $375
  • GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO – $325
  • GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X – $255

  • MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE – $930
  • MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION – $645
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI – $285
  • MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS – $255
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Most expensive Aorus X470 is 230£. Aside from the overkill vrm, they added pcie4, dac and about 100£ to it.
 
So what makes the Ryzen 3600/X and 3700/X series worth buying over a 6 or 8 core Intel 8/9 K series as it seems the Ryzen setup will be more expensive. :confused: Intel peeps with this setup can skip this gen of Ryzen it seems.

The 12 and upcoming 16 core seem great if more cores is your jam.
 
G J said:
So what makes the Ryzen 3600/X and 3700/X series worth buying over a 6 or 8 core Intel 8/9 K series as it seems the Ryzen setup will be more expensive. :confused: Intel peeps with this setup can skip this gen of Ryzen it seems.

The 12 and upcoming 16 core seem great if more cores is your jam.
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There is some difference in the gaming performance - you want the more cores:

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