** The AMD Navi Thread **

[Martini1991]

Navi isn't looking as bad it seems, especially in light of the Super pricing.

The reality is that everything looks bad lol

 

[bru]

Anyone else bemused by the 'tested with the best API' disclaimers. It's as if things are going to suck under certain circumstances and be brilliant under others.

 

[Freddie1980]

Yup, both sides are just going up and up and up! Any excuse to raise prices they will, both of them. Effectively they're turning it into a cartel, without the collusion part.

Kind of ironic that the one company who can break the cartel and get AMD and Nvidia to compete again is Intel.

 

[Zernath]

However RVII is £630+ without blower cooler like the 5700XT.
That's 50% more expensive for potentially same performance at 2560x1440!

Ofc reviews pending.

But isn't the Radeon VII primarily aimed at 4K gaming? Besides, we won't really know until the actual benchmarks roll in, and somehow I doubt AMD will make their only high end product redundant!

 

[Ross Thomson]

At least they offset the lack of anything RTX related with a big bump in HBM.

With the 5700-series they aren't even giving that! Hel,, looks like it doesn't even have Variable Rate Shading!!!

nobody cares about RTX

 

[8myers8]

Is it worth jumping from a Vega 56 to a 5700xt? I play at 1440/144hz?

I would say 110% no , if i was u and want a new card , i would wait till Radeon RX 3000 series , as Vega 56 is a fine card ,
but at the end off the day it is up to you , if u want a new card go for it , u only live once

 

[hyperseven]

I don't care about RTX

Corrected

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Corrected

Ray Tracing is the future but this generation is not really showing it well is it. It's either not very capable or way too expensive.

 

[Darujhistan]

Is it worth jumping from a Vega 56 to a 5700xt? I play at 1440/144hz?

I wouldn't bother.

 

[greatash]

Is it worth jumping from a Vega 56 to a 5700xt? I play at 1440/144hz?

IMO no... £450 for a 10-20% bump over a tweaked v56

keeping my v56 until next year where we will hopefully see some big gains with Intel GPUs, 7nm Nvidia and big Navi.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

IMO no... £450 for a 10-20% bump over a tweaked v56

keeping my v56 until next year where we will hopefully see some big gains with Intel GPUs, 7nm Nvidia and big Navi.

I would agree for now but I hope when they come out the 5700XT is capable of undervolting too. Might be good for another 5-10% if so.

 

[Martini1991]

I would agree for now but I hope when they come out the 5700XT is capable of undervolting too. Might be good for another 5-10% if so.

Undervolting doesn't inherently increase performance lol.
Reason it does with Vega 64 is Vega 64 throttles

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Undervolting doesn't inherently increase performance lol.
Reason it does with Vega 64 is Vega 64 throttles

I know, it has done in Vega and Polaris though because they are set to a higher voltage than they need to be set at to hit desired clock speeds. They both benefit from undervolting and overclocking so I am hoping Navi is similar.

 

[Martini1991]

I know, it has done in Vega and Polaris though because they are set to a higher voltage than they need to be set at to hit desired clock speeds. They both benefit from undervolting and overclocking so I am hoping Navi is similar.

I find it weird you'd hope AMD are releasing a flawed product lol.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

I find it weird you'd hope AMD are releasing a flawed product lol.

I am not, I am hoping there's more than they are showing. It has been the case for the last 2 launches so may be the same again.

Where did I say I want them to release a flawed product?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

5700 is 21% quicker than the RTX 2060 at 1440p, but the Vega 64 is about 12% faster than the RTX 2060(in BF V).
So 9% difference
source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1660_ti_gaming_x_review,12.html

The RX5700 is 9.5% faster than the RTX2060 you average the AMD slide:
https://blogs.forbes.com/antonyleather/files/2019/06/rx5700-vs-rtx-2600.jpg

 

[Martini1991]

I am not, I am hoping there's more than they are showing. It has been the case for the last 2 launches so may be the same again.

Where did I say I want them to release a flawed product?

Those two releases required undervolting because they were flawed.

Last time AMD knocked it out of the park it was all about high overclocking (7970). Drastic change to "Undervolting so it doesn't throttle" lol

 

[Panos]

That graphi though goes from 75% to 100%. So your percentages might be a little off

also here is the end notes
https://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/7179#44

Where I used percentages except on the price of the RVII?

 

[Chrisc]

I would say 110% no , if i was u and want a new card , i would wait till Radeon RX 3000 series , as Vega 56 is a fine card ,
but at the end off the day it is up to you , if u want a new card go for it , u only live once

haha Yolo!!

 

[Chrisc]

IMO no... £450 for a 10-20% bump over a tweaked v56

keeping my v56 until next year where we will hopefully see some big gains with Intel GPUs, 7nm Nvidia and big Navi.

Yeah the Vega is a great card and i dont struggle running 1440p. i guess its just that 'New shiney' temptation.