I've seen a few clips now, they're everywhere and to be sure she seemed in total control. In fact, in most of them, the boys were hardly doing anything and she was the one doing stuff.
Gang of 12 'allegedly' rape British Citizen in Cyprus
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I've seen a few clips now, they're everywhere and to be sure she seemed in total control. In fact, in most of them, the boys were hardly doing anything and she was the one doing stuff.
So, while watching these clips you believe were filmed without the consent of the woman involved, what makes you think they're actually of the girl in Cyprus?
Also, why are you okay with watching porn clips you believe are illegally and immorally filmed without the consent of the woman involved?
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If it's her, does that mean that's also what happened off camera too?
No idea, just what i could see on the video.
And in answer to the Jack fellow, i just came across them by accident and realised what i was watching after the clip ended, not going to justify myself any further
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A few times?
Genuine LOL.
This is why it changed very quickly from serious reaction from the Cypriot police, round up all those little ****s right now to, lying little ****. Not too surprising they were annoyed at her etc... but they seem to have handled it in rather a blunt/unsophisticated country style... no cameras in the police station etc... apparently pressuring her etc...
The sensible comments are on the procedures and dubious actions of the Cypriot police/courts.
The hysteria seems to be lead by some believe all women nutters who still think a rape took place and that this is all some “rape culture” thing where male policemen have let off some lads and gone after the “victim” for [reasons].
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Interesting spin. I thought most concerns were about the accused having friends in high places, with Israeli pressure put on the Cyprus government to clean up.
But no, they are of unsound critical thinking minds who believe women "nutters", best break open the champagne and start chanting "the brit is a whore" [sic] and forget about it.
Stuff doesn't add up, it's plain to see.
Oh it's a total mess, and it doesn't help that the anti-semites have come out of the woodwork to do some mental gymnastics and blame Israeli. To me the whole thing is more about how badly the Cypriot police/courts handled this when it could have been far simpler.
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Have they? I've seen a lot of misogyny but not seen any jew haters?
This would be Yona Golub. Turns out he wasn't identified by the girl, he was named by the lead suspect.
If you "came across them by accident" on any of the leading porn sites, that's not her. They removed the video actually from the incident, partly because since some of the boys involved are under 18 so its legally kiddie porn.
Again, the only confirmed clip is of some of the boys entering the room when she is alone with her partner and she tells him to get rid of them. Not exactly indicative of her being up for a gang bang.
I've seen some. Doesn't seem to be a big factor though.
How the **** is that anti-Semitic? Why wouldn't Israel pressure the visibly corrupt Cypriot government/police to help a group of their citizens escape prejudice? Seems intelligent to me, and it's not like it's unusual for Israel to lobby other countries for things it wants, nor dabble in corruption of their own if the charges against Netanyahu (you know... their PM) are legitimate.
It is not racist to speculate that a government helps it's citizens. Just feels like the term is losing all worth by being thrown around to end discussions, which is something i would have thought a right-wing person would abhor.
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According to the usual suspects, the fact this guy wasn't there brings the whole testimony of the lady involved into doubt. Now we're establishing that she never ever claimed he was there?
It's clear that none of us can ascertain whether or not the case constitutes rape in any legal sense. We simply don't have the facts available to us.
The only thing I can be sure of, is that the judgement of the men involved was woefully lacking in integrity. It was a vile act to involve themselves in, regardless of whether it was 12 or 11 involved.
As was stated previously, this thread has been very uncomfortable to follow. Some of the attitudes have been disgusting. There are those who have treated it like conversational combat, and to be fair they troll almost every thread like that so they're more to be pitied than laughed at. However, there have been a few who have displayed sinister attitudes toward women and the subject of rape... Even watching videos of alleged gang rape in order to make a judgement on whether the female involved is enjoying herself or not... WTF?
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Given there was a video made it would be foolish not to watch it if you intend to have any facts before you when voicing an opinion as to whether a gang rape occurred. Any court case where the jury were not availed of the video would be biased. No decent defense barrister would not plead for the video to be shown, if they felt it aided the defendant's cases however abhorrent some may see its making in the first place. I admit something of a misogynist attitude to women having casual sex with multiple partners at the same time though, I am just old fashioned
Would this be something you'd be happy finding your daughter was involving herself in? My advice to women with high sex drive on holiday is stay out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. Going looking for trouble often finds it...
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I have no intention of watching a young woman getting gang raped. I am also content never to know whether or not a gang rape occurred.
This is irrelevant when discussing people in this thread admitting to watching a video they believe to be of the gang rape. If a video was provided to the court as evidence of anything, it would be subjected to proper scrutiny before being accepted - a WhatsApp from some pervert on Reddit would not be sufficient validation of authenticity.
As I said previously, it's frightening that someone like you could be selected for Jury Duty.
I'm reasonably confident that you are the last person any young woman should look to for advice.