AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Phixsator]

The only reason 10GB isn't enough, is because AMDs putting 16GB on theirs.

Not exactly correct now is it, my friend? What's the next argument gonna be? Games using over 10gb is bought off by AMD?

 

[jonneymendoza]

The only reason 10GB isn't enough, is because AMDs putting 16GB on theirs.

Well when you want the gpu u last u a gen or two, 10gb is not enough.

It won't be enough in a year or so time

 

[Lokken86]

How do we even know AMD have definitely got 16gb?

 

[JediFragger]

Tbf it's not like nVidia have dropped their buyers in it before, 1060 3GB/2060 6GB for a start! 10GB should be fine for a couple of years at least though at 4k, nv will make sure of it (they do pretty much control the market and games tend to get built for them).

 

[jonneymendoza]

Tbf it's not like nVidia have dropped their buyers in it before, 1060 3GB/2060 6GB for a start! 10GB should be fine for a couple of years at least though at 4k, nv will make sure of it (they do pretty much control the market and games tend to get built for them).

No not really.

Multi plat titles will be built on big navi

 

[LoadsaMoney]

You really think, if AMD were also only putting 10GB on theirs, we'd have endless 10GB isn't enough posts, or this thread :- https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/10gb-vram-enough-for-the-3080-discuss.18897519/ would be called, 10GB vram enough for the 3080 and 6xxxx ? discuss, instead.

We all know the answer

 

[MikeB]

Couldn't disagree more, pretty much all titles will be console first, which means AMD gfx cards should be in a great place

 

[jonneymendoza]

Couldn't disagree more, pretty much all titles will be console first, which means AMD gfx cards should be in a great place

Yup exactly

 

[Mr Oblong]

Most likely 1-2 settings that half framerate going from high to ultra, just like Odyssey.
Consoles will be 4k/60/high I'm guessing, ultra is not worth the small IQ difference and a drop to 30fps.

Yeah, ultra is just a waste sometimes.

 

[Mr Oblong]

Couldn't disagree more, pretty much all titles will be console first, which means AMD gfx cards should be in a great place

I think that means the RT usage is likely to normally be in line with what RDNA2 can comfortably manage.

 

[Mr Oblong]

I'd prefer ultra settings in a game I've paid for, so for me a major thing. I've been playing Cold War at 1440p and the difference between that and 4k is pronounced, but so is the performance dip with terrible memory leakage imho on the 5700xt at the minute, it's a beta but for me, I want the best visuals beings as a PC costs thousands of pounds.

That's fair enough, but sometimes the effects are hard to notice or just subjective. Like shadows can be softer or harder, it's partly preference.

 

[gpuerrilla]

In before:

 

[Grim5]

128 watts in game!? What?!

That seems crazy low to me... granted it was playing RDR2, but I expect despite being "last gen" that game should be stressing the console pretty well unless it's locked to the old framerates?

The tweet is refencing figures measured here btw https://tweakers.net/reviews/8252/3/xbox-series-x-onze-eerste-indrukken-en-tests-meten-is-weten.html

Its obviously gong to go higher than that in other games - it has to or the PSU choice in the machine makes no sense - at 128w that PSU in the series x is running under its optimal range, so it's pulling excess wattage from the wall - a smaller PSU would be more efficient, produce less heat and cheaper to manufacture - so why put in a PSU that's less efficient, runs hotter at low load and makes the machine more expensive? Only reason is that 128w is not represented of next gen games that push the hardware

 

[Mr Oblong]

I feel if rt is the next big thing (let's buy that argument for a while) these VRAM discussions won't matter cuz the hardware will be obsolete every 2nd year atleast for the next 4 generations... so buying a 3080 at launch is a better decision than buying a 3080 super 6 to 12 months down or spending $200 on more VRAM

Well, RT increases VRAM usage, so even that scenario would cause VRAM to be a factor earlier on.

 

[Mr Oblong]

Its obviously gong to go higher than that in other games - it has to or the PSU choice in the machine makes no sense - at 128w that PSU in the series x is running under its optimal range, so it's pulling excess wattage from the wall - a smaller PSU would be more efficient, produce less heat and cheaper to manufacture - so why put in a PSU that's less efficient, runs hotter at low load and makes the machine more expensive? Only reason is that 128w is not represented of next gen games that push the hardware

That's a fair point, but I'd also not take a last ten game as indicative of software that's designed to maximise the new hardware design.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Well, RT increases VRAM usage, so even that scenario would cause VRAM to be a factor earlier on.

And you can't even easily buy a 3080 as they only made 10 of them at launch

 

[Mr Oblong]

And you can't even easily buy a 3080 as they only made 10 of them at launch

True. If it becomes available in mid 2021 that's a different argument for lifespan.

 

[JediFragger]

No not really.

Multi plat titles will be built on big navi

You're right, 80% share of all discrete cards sold doesn't mean a thing. My mistake.

 

[Grim5]

Well, RT increases VRAM usage, so even that scenario would cause VRAM to be a factor earlier on.

only by a little bit - from what I've seen with RTX turning RT on at 4k requires an extra 500-1000mb of vram

 

[opethdisciple]

But the problem is AMD might have the Console market but Nvidia own the PC market.

There is a lot of what I'll call 'game work's titles. Some of the biggest IPs from the biggest studios.

CyberPunk 2077 being a stellar example.