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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080Ti to be "available" on June 3rd, RTX 3070Ti on June 10th

The 3080 Ti is really a pointless card, it's literally a 3090 with half the VRAM for a miniscule price cut, at MSRP it should $850/900 max, $1200 is a bloody joke for 12GB when $300 more gives you 24GB at a faster speed and overall a bit better GPU performance.
 
Raiden85 said:
The 3080 Ti is really a pointless card
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is it really pointless? have you seen the actual performance or are you judging a book by its cover?
For the vast majority of 3090 owners more than half of their 24GB VRAM goes untouched, and what would happen if removing that excess memory eased load on the memory bus and made the data transfer more efficient? What would happen if the few missing CUDA cores allowed those remaining to boost further and not throttle as much under high load?

I'm confident that you don't have the answer to these questions, so why not wait a few days for actual performance reviews to materialise before you make a statement like that?

Historically, the Ti cards have given the Titan cards a real run for their money in gaming benchmarks and this is what I half expect to happen again in this case.
 
I wanted a 3080 originally. Mining has paid off my 3070 already. I may go for a 3080 Ti which is almost a 3090 BUT ONLY IF I CAN GET ONE AT MSRP or close.

@ScottiB members market deals or not? Was meant to be coming back but never has yet.
 
Performance wise the 3080 Ti will be a great card, that's definitely not an issue as it is pretty much a 3090, just in cuda cores there is only a difference of 256 which is absolutely nothing. 24GB on the 3090 is certainly overkill now and will be for quite a few years even. The only issue I have with the 3080 Ti is the MSRP price nvidia want for it compared to what they charge MSRP for the 3090 FE. Once AIBs charge their insane prices a FE 3090 at MSRP is going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than an AIB 3080 Ti and you double the VRAM as a nice bonus.
 
Raiden85 said:
Once AIBs charge their insane prices a FE 3090 at MSRP is going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than an AIB 3080 Ti
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I firmly believe that a good after market 3080Ti will beat a 3090FE in most tests simply based on boost clocks alone and if the extra memory doesn't do anything, what's the bonus?
 
ScottiB said:
I firmly believe that a good aftermarket 3080Ti will beat a 3090FE in most tests simply based on boost clocks alone and if the extra memory doesn't do anything, what's the bonus?
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Bonus is the price. A 3090FE is £1399 and cannot see a good 3080Ti AiB card hitting that.
 
ScottiB said:
When the 3080 was announced, we (at OcUK) all agreed that Nvidia's reported MSRP was probably too cheap. This was simply based on its reported performance and the price/performance of the, then, current generation of cards. We weren't surprised when AIB cards started landing at prices that made hitting that MSRP, without support, impossible.
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It only appeared too cheap because of the 2080Ti pricing.

The RRP of the 1080Ti was £700. The 2080Ti offered an approximate 30-35% speed bump over that card yet had an RRP of £1k, meaning the price/performance was roughly the same. That's even ignoring the reality that the vast majority had to pay £1200+ for one.

The 2080Ti should have been the same £700 as the 1080Ti. A 30-35% performance increase for the same outlay would have been a totally reasonable generational leap but NVidia decided to test just how much people would pay.

Had the 2080Ti been the same £700 RRP as the 1080Ti then the 3080 would have continued that progression, again with a 30-35% bump over the 2080Ti at the same price point.
 
ScottiB said:
come on, you know that LN2 doesn't count :p;)
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:D Pretty sure its on water hence the 26deg temp unless he was running the LN2 pot dry :cry: But an amazing score for an FE card and no its nowhere near its out the box performance as pretty sure he was saying its power modded BUT it clearly show the potential of FE cards if Nvidia didn't gimp the power limits :rolleyes:
 
Jay-G25 said:
:D Pretty sure its on water hence the 26deg temp unless he was running the LN2 pot dry :cry: But an amazing score for an FE card and no its nowhere near its out the box performance as pretty sure he was saying its power modded BUT it clearly show the potential of FE cards if Nvidia didn't gimp the power limits :rolleyes:
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oh yeah, that's my point though, the GPU itself (silicon lottery aside) is capable of a LOT more than a stock FE can deliver.
 
ScottiB said:
Historically, the Ti cards have given the Titan cards a real run for their money in gaming benchmarks and this is what I half expect to happen again in this case.
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That was due to the Ti cards not being power limited like the Titan cards were due to them being used in workstations and server setups, the Titans are normally max 250W and we have seen one at 280w. The 3090 is not a Titan and is not power limited and same for the 3080ti, so the difference will be very small this time round if you are comparing a 3090 to a 3080Ti, the only down fall for the FE 3080Ti is the cooling is not as good as a 3090FE as it is using the same cooler the 3080 FE has but uses same power as a 3090, so that will reduce its performance too. End of the day the AIB cards will perform better than the 3080Ti FE and will perform just as well as a 3090 AIB card but slightly slower due to the core count and slightly slower memory bandwidth compared to the 3090.
 
ScottiB said:
oh yeah, that's my point though, the GPU itself (silicon lottery aside) is capable of a LOT more than a stock FE can deliver.
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Yep i agree with you on that point which is why i went for a 3090 Stick OC from Overclockers on release day ... i paid £1700 which was £300 over the FE price and for what i was getting i was happy to pay the extra, if we fast forward to today i certainly wouldn't be looking at the Strix with its now £3000 price tag as it doesn't offer anywhere near the price/performance difference between the 2 models ( £300 difference just about acceptable , £1600 unacceptable ) ... Now we have the 3080TI at £1050 for FE and lets just assume ( unlikely i know :cry: ) that a Strix 3080TI oc was £1400 i would find it very hard to go with the Strix 3080ti and would probably just get the 3090 FE at £1400 as for actually gaming needs when both are overclocked will be very little difference if any between them and then there is the fact the 3090 isn't been nurfed for mining so could possibly do that to gain back some extra cash where that isn't an option on the 3080ti or at least not the aib variants:)
 
ScottiB said:
oh yeah, that's my point though, the GPU itself (silicon lottery aside) is capable of a LOT more than a stock FE can deliver.
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So how far do we have to bend over for the aib cards? 45 degree angle or all out touch your toes and pray for jesus?
 
All those people who said buying a 3080 on launch was foolish because the real big brain strat was waiting for the 3080ti as it's going to have 5 terrabytes of VRAM and cost a tenner more. My £700 3080 looking pretty nice right about now.
 
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