Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Putin was saying in the conference the other day with that german official about genocide in Donbass it seems to be false from what been put out from west side.
 
I still hold the opinion that Putin can achieve so much more by keeping everyone tensed up rather than invading. But perhaps he's a moron, you never know.
 
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FORTE12 up also but weirdly hasnt got very far and doing round laps.
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Couple of submarine hunters (well maritime patrol but at the moment most of their missions in this context are probably sub-surface) around that area as well - AE679B with no call sign visible currently - possibly waiting on or assisting them or something.

Marshal Ustinov (Russian guided missile cruiser) may still be in the area as well.

OLIVE49 Combat Sent out at Crete now - possibly related to FORTE12 activity - additionally undersea cable ships in the area so may be monitoring interconnects.
 
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Would love to have seen what FORTE11 was watching last night as it cruised above Ukraine. Bet the technology it carries is phenomenal.
 
OLIVE27 out in the US interesting - probably coincidence but only times I've seen it before is just before stuff has kicked off majorly like with Afghanistan.
 
Munich Security Conference on Saturday with Ukraine's president in attendance - as good a time to strike as any when the leader is out of the country albeit he'd probably be gone pretty quick if Russia did invade.

Curious FORTE12 has done a quick lap through Romania along Moldova and seems to be heading back, while USAF F16s are up over Romania.
 
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Combat Sent now heading to the Black Sea interesting it was recalled and call sign changed from OLIVE to HOMER about the same time RCH644 and FORTE12 did abrupt turns and seem to change what they were doing. Seems like something has changed and quite unusual for a Combat Sent to be up doing a mission like that.

EDIT: Some suggestion FORTE12 technical issues has resulted in having to send out HOMER49 instead and RCH644 re-routing is just a coincidence.
 
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Bit of a protest going on in Kyiv - not really sure the details - they've stuck a banner over the live stream blocking most of it out.

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Russian port access means they have the option of either an artic traverse or come through the northern seas.

If they're hanging around then they're targeting digital infrastructure. A war would quickly escalate if they start harassing or attacking shipping. If they're using active sonar they could also be updating the mapping seabed for use with autonomous based attack subs.
 
Custor said:
Ukrainians to attack in 2 then?
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What looks to be a definite return to Cold War 1945-1990 is the placing of permanent battle groups on European soil. This time a little further east protecting all the former soviet satellite states as well as Western Europe.
Defence spending is likely to rise as well as taxes for those of us lucky enough to live in well off liberal democracies. It is almost deja vu for an old boomer like me.
What largely brought down the USSR was them trying and failing to compete in cash terms with the arms race. Would it happen again?
 
Hagar said:
What largely brought down the USSR was them trying and failing to compete in cash terms with the arms race. Would it happen again?
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War has more options w.r.t. cyberwarfare. Sure the arms race continues - both China and Russia are now participants along with the EU and UK.
 
Hagar said:
What looks to be a definite return to Cold War 1945-1990 is the placing of permanent battle groups on European soil. This time a little further east protecting all the former soviet satellite states as well as Western Europe.
Defence spending is likely to rise as well as taxes for those of us lucky enough to live in well off liberal democracies. It is almost deja vu for an old boomer like me.
What largely brought down the USSR was them trying and failing to compete in cash terms with the arms race. Would it happen again?
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And chernobyl and the space race.
 
Truss reverted to 'communicating' via Telegraph articles - she realised she can't communicate competently in real life.

why don't they share some satellite images to corroborate russian manouvers - would they really be disclosing unknown technological capabilities, when did they disclose cuban missile emplacements
 
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