Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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It's the same number.
What's that saying? "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into"
Analysis by General Sir Richard Barrons, who led the UK's Joint Forces Command
The point about putting weapons at higher alert is probably more to do with putting more weapons at higher readiness, because there are always some weapons at high readiness all the time.
This is to ensure that neither Russia nor the west have the drop on their opponent.
On the question of whether Mr Putin would use nuclear weapons we need to distinguish between two aspects. First, in Russian military doctrine the idea of using a small tactical nuclear warhead (so perhaps from .03 of a kiloton up to perhaps 10 kiloton) is seen as an option for de-escalating the situation.
In this context they might conceive using a small nuclear weapon in Ukraine, but in the absence of NATO intervening with military force this seems wholly incredible.
NATO does not subscribe to this doctrine and sees the use of nuclear weapons as something separate and escalatory
The second aspect is whether Mr Putin thinks he would consider using nuclear weapons against countries outside Ukraine. He could only possibly imagine doing this if he was prepared to see Russian urban areas incinerated in response.
It seems to me that when Mr Putin raises the spectre of nuclear weapons it betrays his anger and disappointment at the progress on the ground so far, the realisation that the population of Ukraine is mostly set against him, and a real fear that he is about to fail in conditions in which he has turned not just most of the world (less perhaps China) against him but driven huge concerns about him into the lives of his own people.
If he is now crazy enough to think about pushing the nuclear button we’re going to rely on a very small number of hard-liners around him to not comply. Scary thought of the day.
The point about putting weapons at higher alert is probably more to do with putting more weapons at higher readiness, because there are always some weapons at high readiness all the time.
This is to ensure that neither Russia nor the west have the drop on their opponent.
On the question of whether Mr Putin would use nuclear weapons we need to distinguish between two aspects. First, in Russian military doctrine the idea of using a small tactical nuclear warhead (so perhaps from .03 of a kiloton up to perhaps 10 kiloton) is seen as an option for de-escalating the situation.
In this context they might conceive using a small nuclear weapon in Ukraine, but in the absence of NATO intervening with military force this seems wholly incredible.
NATO does not subscribe to this doctrine and sees the use of nuclear weapons as something separate and escalatory
The second aspect is whether Mr Putin thinks he would consider using nuclear weapons against countries outside Ukraine. He could only possibly imagine doing this if he was prepared to see Russian urban areas incinerated in response.
It seems to me that when Mr Putin raises the spectre of nuclear weapons it betrays his anger and disappointment at the progress on the ground so far, the realisation that the population of Ukraine is mostly set against him, and a real fear that he is about to fail in conditions in which he has turned not just most of the world (less perhaps China) against him but driven huge concerns about him into the lives of his own people.
If he is now crazy enough to think about pushing the nuclear button we’re going to rely on a very small number of hard-liners around him to not comply. Scary thought of the day.
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Maybe he knows better than anyone it would be futile trying to make him see sense ?
The US is a warmonger a version of violent dictator! but we only can mention Vladimir Putin
I know this is probably contributing to the thread drift, but anecdotally I remember one of the flight sims I bought on first buying a PC in 1995 was US Navy Fighters. The setting for that was a war between Russia and Ukraine. 27 years later, it's come to pass.
Yea, that's what it smacks of
To me it shows that the Russian troops dont want to be there…
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I don't understand why, but they're really struggling to take out those drones, most convoys have been supported with short range air defence Strela-10's, so they should have no reason not to take them out, but it seems like they're not even looking out for them
Which is pretty much BS. Get out the zone ASAP is pretty much your only option. Then get far away as possible to try and avoid fallout.
THE EUROPEAN UNION HAS AGREED TO PROHIBIT ALL TRANSACTIONS WITH THE RUSSIAN CENTRAL BANK.
Source:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1498004335464169473
https://twitter.com/europressos/status/1498004255164317696
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1498004033893814279
Source:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1498004335464169473
https://twitter.com/europressos/status/1498004255164317696
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1498004033893814279
Not really. there's the missile crews themselves that have to fire the weapons. How many of them would think, I don't want to kill millions of people I don't have a quarrel with. Especially if they've found out why they are firing.
By threatening the Nuclear option it's obvious Putin is deluded, whether he would do it is up to debate, but to me it's a massive disrespect to his people and Russia by even putting this on the table, nobody wins when this happens as we all know, so he is putting the existence of everybody at risk on the back of a so called peacekeeping mission in Ukraine. The sooner he is taken from power by his own people the better, but as we all likely know like any dictator he is probably surrounded by people who fear for their life and say yes to anything. I don't believe that majority of Russians have the same view, and if we get past this all this I'll be the first to wish them prosperity as part of a whole world cooperative, but they need to help themselves to get to this, they have so much potential but they all need to help themselves first to get rid of the despot who governs them.
... but they need it to help stop the war.
They're small and much harder for air defence systems to take down.
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Well he's got less to lose in a nuclear war.
Do you think it's worth it to provoke him with sanctions? Japan attacked Pearl Harbour after sanctions?
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