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I think Putin is finished.
Just be glad us normal people are not the ones making decisions, because though people like Boris get a lot of slate here damn the poor guy got in office and had to deal with Brexit, then Covid and now potential war, talk about unlucky timing to be PM. We just sit back and watch, the real shame is that people are dying.

Imagine what things would have been like, if Jeremy Corbyn had become PM

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Out of interest does anyone know much about US plans to quickly deploy units into Western Europe ala Reforger as that was exercised for the last time in 1993 and have since concentrated on Exercise Bright Star into the Middle East instead?

Are the Pentagon currently searching in dusty filing cabinets trying to find the old OOB and law references for the transfer of civilian transport assets into military control!?
 
Out of interest does anyone know much about US plans to quickly deploy units into Western Europe ala Reforger as that was exercised for the last time in 1993 and have since concentrated on Exercise Bright Star into the Middle East instead?

Are the Pentagon currently searching in dusty filing cabinets trying to find the old OOB and law references for the transfer of civilian transport assets into military control!?


Showing a defensive force does not really need the USA at present, it all helps, but between UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Poland, Romania it is fair to say there is a huge force there alone, along with other potential countries strengthening defensive positions. I think the latter is more sensible, 100,000's of USA troops flying in is more likely to raise concern with Putin and all these EU countries have USA military bases which are manned anyway, so there is a huge force on standby in EU if required, let us hope it is not required.
 
Out of interest does anyone know much about US plans to quickly deploy units into Western Europe ala Reforger as that was exercised for the last time in 1993 and have since concentrated on Exercise Bright Star into the Middle East instead?

Are the Pentagon currently searching in dusty filing cabinets trying to find the old OOB and law references for the transfer of civilian transport assets into military control!?
If Russia decide to start rolling westward there are plans/contingencies in place to deal with this. Military/Civil planning always has plans to deal with eventualities like this. I cant/wont go into any detail as I'm not certain what is and isnt public knowledge.
They may not exercise it on the same scale. However, US would still play a major part should the worst happen and Ukraine alone dosnt satisfy Putin.
 
I think you mean fascists, surely?
I think fascism would describe both Nazi Germany and Putin's Russia.

However Nazi literally stands for the National Socialist German Workers' Party - which was the 'veil' used for Hitler to gain power. Why do you think people are so apprehensive about allowing any kind of socialism back into Government.
 
If Russia decide to start rolling westward there are plans/contingencies in place to deal with this. Military/Civil planning always has plans to deal with eventualities like this. I cant/wont go into any detail as I'm not certain what is and isnt public knowledge.
They may not exercise it on the same scale. However, US would still play a major part should the worst happen and Ukraine alone dosnt satisfy Putin.

Unless they are holding something back I'd be piping down if I was Putin - given what we've seen so far even the recent model T-90s and T-72B3s are going to need like 10 to 1 odds against UK/EU MBTs.
 
A major lesson to everyone that voted Labour last time..

The Tories are not much better with their exposure to Russian influence, but the previous Labour leadership would been a disaster in this instance and that isn't something I'd say about the current one.

Anyway, not really the thread.
 
I think Putin is all in on this one. Whatever happens, he needs to be seen to win. I dread to think how this is going to end.

To be all in means firing nuclear weapons, he does that, he does not win, nobody wins.

If he goes to war and does not use nuclear weapons, then he has no chance, even if China sides with him in the end it would be a very bloody war and there would be no real victors, just victims worldwide, even if the West won a WW3 scenario even without using nuclear weapons would leave so much of the planet destroyed, and to think they are / were worrying about global warming, well now the potential of a war or something bigger is going to be vastly more harmful to the planet.
 
Russia may have had plans to head west ward but thats before they actually knew just how useless they were. and they do know now how inefective they actually are.

They can't even move a convoy 20 miles to kyiv let alone the thousands of miles they would need to move from country to country,

Whatever Putins plans were they are now on full stop, they wouldn't get ten feet past Ukrains border without the full force of natos air power decending on them.

Sadly Putin will destroy Ukrain, head home and declare a victory, destroying the neo nazis was his excuse and he will use it for a victory speech.
 
I think Putin is all in on this one. Whatever happens, he needs to be seen to win. I dread to think how this is going to end.

I honestly don't see a logical path to victory for Putin, I think he's overstepped.

If he continues - Ukraine won't fold, it'll turn into a long drawn out nightmare, Russia will become completely isolated from the rest of the world for decades or longer - there's no way the west are rolling back any sanctions now.

If he pulls out without achieving his objectives, it'll be gigantic humiliation for a country obsessed with not being humiliated.
 
I think Putin is all in on this one. Whatever happens, he needs to be seen to win. I dread to think how this is going to end.

He told Macron in no uncertain tones the Russian military was staying in Ukraine until the "task" is done, he doesn't seem to have any intention of backing down and I think Macron is starting to realise he was played for a fool.

To be all in means firing nuclear weapons, he does that, he does not win, nobody wins.

Russian psyche, at least those stuck in the past, do not see nuclear war as "the end" like we do - they spent a lot of efforts in the cold war era preparing to survive and rebuild post all out nuclear war and I suspect Putin's advisors are still telling him that level of preparedness is ready even though that is no longer the case.
 
Quite surprised that NATO haven't stepped in due to the attack on the Nuclear Power Plant, this would affect the world 6 times over if radiation was to leak as Chernobyl was 1 power plant but 6 of them if they get control and use the plant as bribery.
 
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