Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

Status
Not open for further replies.
Isn't his name spelt wrong there, Should be Zelenskyy if you go by how it is spelt on his twitter. I've seen multiple news outlets spell it wrong the past week to lol.
 
Isn't his name spelt wrong there, Should be Zelenskyy if you go by how it is spelt on his twitter. I've seen multiple news outlets spell it wrong the past week to lol.
I think it depends on Anglicised Vs Ukrainian spelling, but yeah.
 
*UK Energy Minister Hands: We Are Prepared to Collaborate on a Global Scale to Reduce Our Reliance on Russian Gas – Ceraweek.
*UK Energy Minister Hands: The Country Is in a Good Position in Terms of Natural Gas Supply, but It Is Vulnerable in Terms of Price – Ceraweek.
*Fitch Ratings: The Recent Downgrade of a ‘C’ Rating for Russia Reflects Belief That a Sovereign Default Is Imminent.

-
-
https://twitter.com/IGSquawk/status/1501318962839052297

 
It's actually billions of pounds worth of 'offshore investments'
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...dent-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

Neither of those articles say Zelensky laundered money rather a scheme was created by his aide, Serhiy Shefir, to allegedly, i don't think there's been any solid proof of this so far (by all means post a link if there has), launder money for his old TV network boss, Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Sure the "connections" don't make him squeaky clean and it's likely he committed tax avoidance through offshore accounts but, there doesn't seem to be much evidence to show Zelensky himself is nor Ukraine are...

one of the most corrupt politicians in one of the most corrupt governments on the planet

You can read the Pandora Papers if you have any questions.

Out of curiosity, have you read The Panama Papers in their entirety?
 
You madea claim that he was the most corrupt politician in one of the planets most corrupt countries. I am asking you to substantiate that claim.

All you have posted is a single Guardian article that says he has interests in off shore companies. Then you made some other remark that was irrelevant pointing to a person who had nothing to do with anything having billions.

What exactly led you to this conclusion:
"He's one of the most corrupt politicians in one of the most corrupt governments on the planet" do you think the Ukraine government is not corrupt? Does his involvement in the pandora papers not back that up? Have you seen what's in there and the scale of it? If not, please have read, it's interesting stuff.

I know you like me to post links you won't read so here's something that backs up the claim that Urkraine is the most corrupt government in Europe:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

There are many other sources that back up this claim but I try to stick to mainstream media and you'll dismiss anything else offhand, you're not even reading anything anyway so what's the point?
 
Poland is going to give their MIG 29 jets to the US, so they can give them to the Ukraine, is that going to escalate things? Cant see the Russians accepting that.
 
Does his involvement in the pandora papers not back that up? Have you seen what's in there and the scale of it?

So being in The Panama Papers means you're corrupt?
If so then Nico Rosberg, Tiger Woods, Emma Watson and Jackie Chan are also "corrupt" as they're all in the papers.
 
"He's one of the most corrupt politicians in one of the most corrupt governments on the planet" do you think the Ukraine government is not corrupt? Does his involvement in the pandora papers not back that up? Have you seen what's in there and the scale of it? If not, please have read, it's interesting stuff.

I know you like me to post links you won't read so here's something that backs up the claim that Urkraine is the most corrupt government in Europe:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

There are many other sources that back up this claim but I try to stick to mainstream media and you'll dismiss anything else offhand, you're not even reading anything anyway so what's the point?
Ah gotcha so an 8 year old Guardian article that says the most corrupt country in EUROPE (i.e. the shining beacon of anti-corruption) is what you are regurgitating as the most corrupt country on the planet.

Why is now when you are launching an attack on Ukraine?
 
Poland is going to give their MIG 29 jets to the US, so they can give them to the Ukraine, is that going to escalate things? Cant see the Russians accepting that.
There's nothing they can do about it, their literal only way of trying to stop it would be to threaten nukes and that's an empty threat because Putin isn't going to bring about the end of the world just to stop Ukraine getting 20x 50 year old planes, especially when there's zero chance of them turning the tide of an air war Ukraine is already winning :P
 
Neither of those articles say Zelensky laundered money rather a scheme was created by his aide, Serhiy Shefir, to allegedly, i don't think there's been any solid proof of this so far (by all means post a link if there has), launder money for his old TV network boss, Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

Sure the "connections" don't make him squeaky clean and it's likely he committed tax avoidance through offshore accounts but, there doesn't seem to be much evidence to show Zelensky himself is nor Ukraine are...

Out of curiosity, have you read The Panama Papers in their entirety?

I find it strange that even when you show people corruption they still give him a pass. There's literally nothing I can say or do to shift people's view so what is the point in entertaining questions like 'have you read it in its entirety?' Would it make a difference if I hadn't? Would it change anything if I had?

Yes, I've read every page - changes nothing as far as you're concerned

No, I've never even seen the files (and there's a lot of them) - changes nothing as far as you're concerned

Yes but I've only seen the relevant sections - changes nothing as far as you're concerned

Either YOU'VE got the curiousity to explore things further or you don't. There's the water, drink it or don't. I've done my bit, I've shown you the water was there.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom