Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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andybird123 said:
Yuzivska gas field is right under where all the front lines are - overlaid it looks exactly like it is Russia's main aim for this.
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Thanks, will take another look. Hopefully Ukraine can push them back. If Ukraine can keep control of all the areas where the resources are, I'm not sure what is in it for Russia. Crimea comes with resources but so far has been a complete money pit for Russia. Without recources I'd expect Donetsk and Luhansk to also be money pits.
 
0007 said:
*Kremlin Spokesman: We Are Seeing Large Numbers of Casualties Among Troops in Ukraine, It’s a Tragedy — IFX
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Is this the first time they've admitted they are taking serious casualties? Probably can't hide it any more.
 
0007 said:
*Kremlin Spokesman: We Are Seeing Large Numbers of Casualties Among Troops in Ukraine, It’s a Tragedy — IFX
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I guess they've had such bad communication that they're only fully appreciating the numbers once they've moved BTGs back to Belarus and realised just how many troops are missing.
 
I don't like how little clarity there is on where Russia is going from here - that they are reorganising and taking stock before an assault on the south and east looks likely but we should assume they are going to try and address things like the impact supplies and intel from the West are having before they do that, etc. there seems to be a lot of assumptions the Russians are essentially spent and/or won't change their approach based on lessons learnt (which may or may not be the case).
 
englishpremier said:
Thanks, will take another look. Hopefully Ukraine can push them back. If Ukraine can keep control of all the areas where the resources are, I'm not sure what is in it for Russia. Crimea comes with resources but so far has been a complete money pit for Russia. Without recources I'd expect Donetsk and Luhansk to also be money pits.
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A land bridge to crimea also gives Russia total control of the azov sea.

Russia doesn't need gas, but taking and holding donbas would deny resources to Ukraine in future.
 
Rroff said:
I don't like how little clarity there is on where Russia is going from here - that they are reorganising and taking stock before an assault on the south and east looks likely but we should assume they are going to try and address things like the impact supplies and intel from the West are having before they do that, etc. there seems to be a lot of assumptions the Russians are essentially spent and/or won't change their approach based on lessons learnt (which may or may not be the case).
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I'm afraid they will have a lot more cannon fodder.

 
Dunno who is on flight RA02730 but regularly seems to go between major government sites and often appears in or out of areas where Russian top brass supposedly have bunkers when it turns its transponder on.

Hook said:
I'm afraid they will have a lot more cannon fodder.
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Have to say I would not want to go to war in rubber boots - though probably preferable to many of their alternatives if you end up in muddy trenches for days on end.
 
Goodie said:
wasn't the whole mobile crem thing discredited to be a photoshop of some bin lorries?

*edit* sorry for the echo of what others had said. commented on the post before reading to the bottom of the thread.
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I can't confirm creamatories in mariupol but I do know that the pentagon said Russia had placed crematories along the Ukraine border in its forward camps just before the invasion; whether those have been moved over the border I don't know but Russia does have crematories in hand
 
With all due respect to the dead and the people of Ukraine, something confuses me a little.
When the Russian Army was sat just outside their borders, amassing for about 3 weeks, they didn't seem to care.
I saw AMAs on reddit with people who lived near by who said they were just getting on with life and weren't worried.

To me this seemed a bit mental and I don't think it required any hindsight to see this coming. So much so that I'm confused why they didn't have everything they had pointed at that area.

I would bet 100% that the dead civilians thought nothing of it, rather than doing a runner weeks and weeks ago.
You can't blame the Ukrainians, but I feel a little like they were to nonchalant about Russia and hoped being diplomatic with a lunatic was the best course of action.
 
ChroniC said:
With all due respect to the dead and the people of Ukraine, something confuses me a little.
When the Russian Army was sat just outside their borders, amassing for about 3 weeks, they didn't seem to care.
I saw AMAs on reddit with people who lived near by who said they were just getting on with life and weren't worried.

To me this seemed a bit mental and I don't think it required any hindsight to see this coming. So much so that I'm confused why they didn't have everything they had pointed at that area.

I would bet 100% that the dead civilians thought nothing of it, rather than doing a runner weeks and weeks ago.
You can't blame the Ukrainians, but I feel a little like they were to nonchalant about Russia and hoped being diplomatic with a lunatic was the best course of action.
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At the time they thought this way because it was par for the course, Russia has been on its eastern border for 8 years throwing threats


And of course it was a bit political too; Russia was trying to get zelensky's government to shut down and dissolve itself and they resisted and told the people nothing will happen
 
ChroniC said:
With all due respect to the dead and the people of Ukraine, something confuses me a little.
When the Russian Army was sat just outside their borders, amassing for about 3 weeks, they didn't seem to care.
I saw AMAs on reddit with people who lived near by who said they were just getting on with life and weren't worried.

To me this seemed a bit mental and I don't think it required any hindsight to see this coming. So much so that I'm confused why they didn't have everything they had pointed at that area.

I would bet 100% that the dead civilians thought nothing of it, rather than doing a runner weeks and weeks ago.
You can't blame the Ukrainians, but I feel a little like they were to nonchalant about Russia and hoped being diplomatic with a lunatic was the best course of action.
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Russia has built up, then drawn down multiple times over the last ~7 years which has made people in nearby Ukraine somewhat numb to it, then the Ukrainian government was downplaying it a lot (largely due to the economic consequences) in the build up to this invasion - only those who were glued to OSINT or government level would really have known how heightened the risk was.

Even then though there was definitely an increasing reality which should have been apparent to any casual observer but a lot just won't allow or believe something like this would or could happen in this day and age until it does - almost like to allow such thing is possible makes it more likely to happen and sticking head in sand makes it less likely...
 
ChroniC said:
With all due respect to the dead and the people of Ukraine, something confuses me a little.
When the Russian Army was sat just outside their borders, amassing for about 3 weeks, they didn't seem to care.
I saw AMAs on reddit with people who lived near by who said they were just getting on with life and weren't worried.

To me this seemed a bit mental and I don't think it required any hindsight to see this coming. So much so that I'm confused why they didn't have everything they had pointed at that area.

I would bet 100% that the dead civilians thought nothing of it, rather than doing a runner weeks and weeks ago.
You can't blame the Ukrainians, but I feel a little like they were to nonchalant about Russia and hoped being diplomatic with a lunatic was the best course of action.
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Because this had been going on for years with nothing also Russians were told they were on peace keeping when they entered they didn't go in aggressively.
 
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