AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[gpuerrilla]

AMD have always been crap compared to Nvidia in production that's not a surprise.

They could be 150% faster and Nvidia would still win.

Luckily I only care about gaming perf so that doesn't come into play in anyway whatsoever

Nobody on here gave a hoot about other performance outside of gaming last gen, well very few did like @Purgatory when points were made about needing features like SLI or vram. Now all of a sudden its a needed metric!

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

And no one noticed or is talking about the Blender performance, the leakers also released blender scores

In blender the 7900xtx scored 3.8k points while a 6950xt gets 2.2k, which is a 72% improvement

https://i.~ibb.co~/x5CSS6V/65-E6-D018-03-FE-4-F9-E-ACAE-2-F6-AAAAD0-BC9.jpg

Cycles x (blenders render engine) currently only supports RT cores on Nvidia GPUs via optix. AMD are working to get HIP RT working for blender 3.5 (scheduled for release around feb 2023 I believe). They have an alpha version of drivers in the lab and a patch has been sent to the blender foundation for review.

It’s not much of a leak as if you go to blender open data you can see the results on the website if you filter by device. They’ve been there for a few days.

 

[Grim5]

The Nvidia performance is not relevant to the discussion; the point being that it shows the 7900xtx is significantly faster then the 6950xt

 

[gpuerrilla]

Its a strange app to promote/highlight particularly when your sporting a 4090 in an AMD thread.

The Nvidia performance is not relevant to the discussion;

Glad we covered that one then.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

The Nvidia performance is not relevant to the discussion; the point being that it shows the 7900xtx is significantly faster then the 6950xt

Fair enough

 

[Grim5]

Its a strange app to promote/highlight particularly when your sporting a 4090 in an AMD thread.



Glad we covered that one then.

I'll post wherever I want to thanks

Just trying to highlight that something is odd with the 3Dmark numbers since it's not reflected in a different benchmark

 

[ICDP]

AMDs pricing looks to me like a lack of ambition to compete. The only way it's going to work is if both cards are quite a bit faster than the 4080 as I doubt many would buy the 4080 even for £900 so what chance do AMD have with a 7900XT at this price that performs slower with less features and worse RT.

You forget the 4080 is £1200, not £900. So NVidia being 33% more expensive makes the 7900 XT “seem” like good value.

Neither of these cards exist in a bubble and if the 4080 was indeed £900, a lot more people would consider one. Hypotheticals are pointless given we already have relative pricing and will soon have relative performance comparisons.

 

[hyperseven]

You forget the 4080 is £1200, not £900. So NVidia being 33% more expensive makes the 7900 XT “seem” like good value.

Neither of these cards exist in a bubble and if the 4080 was indeed £900, a lot more people would consider one. Hypotheticals are pointless given we already have relative pricing and will soon have relative performance comparisons.

£1100

 

[kieran_read]

Nobody on here gave a hoot about other performance outside of gaming last gen, well very few did like @Purgatory when points were made about needing features like SLI or vram. Now all of a sudden its a needed metric!

Yeh I'll continue not caring about those benchmarks I play games I don't sit in blender all day.

The market for professionals is a lot smaller than the market for gamers so I'm sure most won't be interested in those results.

It's just another way for people to say "yeh but I'm faster than you I'm blender" even though neither of them use blender.

It's a odd argument.

Gaming performance only can't wait for Monday!

 

[gpuerrilla]

Nvidia will be in the driving seat when it comes to price drops as they launched first. They can now just react once AMD reveal their stock volumes available. AMD missed the boat somewhat by not having the 78900XT cheaper or offering a 7800 non XT for the £700 segment.

 

[ICDP]

£1100

£1199 for 4080FE on UK shop, but hey let’s focus on that rather than the overall message that Nvidia are trying to normalise 2nd tier GPUs for £1200. AMD are better but still overpriced.

 

[TNA]

But they weren’t referring to people like you. It was aimed at those who would generally never consider AMD card, seemingly latching on to any rumours that cast AMD in a negative light.

Who though? Grim? Can't think of anyone else who posted recently doing this.

What makes me laugh is you get one or two guys doing it and he makes it sound like whole forum is doing it

 

[TNA]

AMDs pricing looks to me like a lack of ambition to compete. The only way it's going to work is if both cards are quite a bit faster than the 4080 as I doubt many would buy the 4080 even for £900 so what chance do AMD have with a 7900XT at this price that performs slower with less features and worse RT.

Lets not normalize £1000 for not the top GPU. AMD and NVidia are taking the pee and it will show in their gaming financial results.

This.

Nvidia taking the biscuit with the prices and AMD doing the same, just a little less.

 

[harmattan]

Lets not normalize £1000 for not the top GPU. AMD and NVidia are taking the pee and it will show in their gaming financial results.

So many "people" (ahem) rationalizing nV and AMD prices peeing on our legs an telling us it's raining, especially now as we lead into holiday sales. Crypto, increased demand, low supply, inflation, Jensen needs a new custom jacket for his pet iguana... When you do the math, that dog don't hunt.

 

[Locky]

Anyone buying a 7900XT or whatever for a £1000 or the 4080 for £1200 is an idiot and ruining it for people who can't afford such stupid prices for cards..

 

[Cooper]

Anyone buying a 7900XT or whatever for a £1000 or the 4080 for £1200 is an idiot and ruining it for people who can't afford such stupid prices for cards..

Not sure whether to take this as sarcasm or serious comment.

Either one has its merits.

 

[JediFragger]

Anyone buying a 7900XT or whatever for a £1000 or the 4080 for £1200 is an idiot and ruining it for people who can't afford such stupid prices for cards..

I think you've spunked a LOT of cash on SLi setups in the past Chris

 

[kieran_read]

£1199 for 4080FE on UK shop, but hey let’s focus on that rather than the overall message that Nvidia are trying to normalise 2nd tier GPUs for £1200. AMD are better but still overpriced.

Not to defend Nvidia but i don't understand this "normalise" argument....

The 1080ti was over £1000
The 2080ti was over £1000
The 3080ti was over £1000

I don't know the full figues for the 80 class no TI but i'm pretty sure back in 2017 there were periods where the 1080 were hitting close to 1k, the 2080 i'm pretty sure also had periods it was over 1k and the 3080 definatly did.

Ultimatly It's been over 1k for 3 generations you can call the MRSP what you want but if there's nothing available for MSRP then it's a pointless metric to go by all Nvidia have done is Scalp them themselves rather than have AIBs/Retailers scalp them.

I'm not defending the high prices.. but they've been this high for 4 generations.

The >>>>>>ONLY<<<<<<< thing that is different is the official MRSP, the price they are selling for on launch is about the same (even more so when adjusted for inflation)

This price is already normalised, it was normalised when 1080 buyers paid the money, then the 2080 paid it, and then the 3080 users paid even more than what the 4080 is available for now.

 

[flea.rider]

Anyone buying a 7900XT or whatever for a £1000 or the 4080 for £1200 is an idiot and ruining it for people who can't afford such stupid prices for cards..

why ? if i've saved for a yr or if i can afford to buy either ? whats that got to do with anyone except my wife ... ?? as always it's the only person we have to justify it to

 

[TNA]

I think you've spunked a LOT of cash on SLi setups in the past Chris

Tell him Chris, do us a favour @JediFragger and don't ****ing bring up stuff from a million years ago.

He knows what I mean