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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..
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That has nothing to do with my post above whatsoever, but they look pretty even to me?
Guess you needs to crank up RT/DLSS for the 3080 to be faster.
Speaking of which, fancy comparing 6900 XT Vs 3080 performance in the Timespy, Firestrike, Forza, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Valhalla OcuK bench threads?
Would love to see how fast your 3080 is in comparison at the same settings - for a bit of fun.
That's why I bought a 3080, next gen tech
Sorry, you are still relatively new around hereYou forgot about me though.
You forgot about me though.
Doh...
Caporegime
Only person that seems to care about that game is LtMatt. Every time the 10gb is enough up until today topic comes up…
I had to scroll back a few pages to remember why Godfall was mentioned. Then I saw your post And remembered the 3080 having it’s trousers pulled down on minimum FPS with RT on while having enough GPU grunt to run the game.
Yea but as we all came to the conclusion. Who cares about that gameI had to scroll back a few pages to remember why Godfall was mentioned. Then I saw your post And remembered the 3080 having it’s trousers pulled down on minimum FPS with RT on while having enough GPU grunt to run the game.
It comes alive with RT Psycho. Turn off screen space reflections, so that RT reflections are used. I admit I do remember rasterisation
Speaking of next gen tech ....
Software raytracing.
Caporegime
Yea as we now know... Facts, the 3080 can run out of VRAM before it runs out of GPU grunt.Yea but as we all came to the conclusion. Who cares about that game
Facts, in a game no one cares about. Might as well be a gameworks title. One of those where they use a bunch of tessellation under water. Lol.Facts, the 3080 can run out of VRAM before it runs out of GPU grunt.
Caporegime
Glad you’ve admitted it, nothing further to add your honour.
Admitted what? I don’t care one way or the other. I am no nvidia fanboy and don’t even have a 3080 anymore. I got what I wanted out of the card and as predicted never had an issue with it being 10gb during the time I didGlad you’ve admitted it, nothing further to add your honour.
Soldato
Not sure I would consider sub 60 fps enough grunt
Admitted what? I don’t care one way or the other. I am no nvidia fanboy and don’t even have a 3080 anymore. I got what I wanted out of the card and as predicted never had an issue with it being 10gb during the time I did
The issue with the AMD 6800xt/6900xt series cards is their roughly 500 to 550GB/s Bandwidth.
The RTX 3080/3090 Series cards have 680 to 980GB/s Bandwidth.
Above 10GB RAM does not currently show any performance difference. That issue makes the 3 series cards perform better in almost all games apart from the odd AMD optimised game. Even miners say they get better performance from 3 series cards and that's why. You can't even buy them in the shops because of they are the better cards for gaming and so on.
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RE Village, again (from guru3d.com)
2080ti and 78 FPS at 4K RT. Clearly, the "grunt" is there.
"We’re constantly analyzing memory requirements of the latest games and regularly review with game developers to understand their memory needs for current and upcoming games.....A few examples - if you look at Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Gears of War 5, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 running on a 3080 at 4k with Max settings (including any applicable high res texture packs) and RTX On, when the game supports it, you get in the range of 60-100fps and use anywhere from 4GB to 6GB of memory. Extra memory is always nice to have but it would increase the price of the graphics card, so we need to find the right balance.
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Nvidia's dreamland VRAM consumption idea = 4-6 GB memory at 4K
Reality after 8 months = 8.5-9 GB used memory at 1440p/1080p and pushing the boundaries of 10 GB at 4K
(from guru3d.com)
2080ti and 78 FPS at 4K RT. Clearly, the "grunt" is there.
"We’re constantly analyzing memory requirements of the latest games and regularly review with game developers to understand their memory needs for current and upcoming games.....A few examples - if you look at Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Gears of War 5, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 running on a 3080 at 4k with Max settings (including any applicable high res texture packs) and RTX On, when the game supports it, you get in the range of 60-100fps and use anywhere from 4GB to 6GB of memory. Extra memory is always nice to have but it would increase the price of the graphics card, so we need to find the right balance.
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Nvidia's dreamland VRAM consumption idea = 4-6 GB memory at 4K
Reality after 8 months = 8.5-9 GB used memory at 1440p/1080p and pushing the boundaries of 10 GB at 4K
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RE Village, again
2080ti and 78 FPS at 4K RT. Clearly, the "grunt" is there.
"We’re constantly analyzing memory requirements of the latest games and regularly review with game developers to understand their memory needs for current and upcoming games.....A few examples - if you look at Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Gears of War 5, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 running on a 3080 at 4k with Max settings (including any applicable high res texture packs) and RTX On, when the game supports it, you get in the range of 60-100fps and use anywhere from 4GB to 6GB of memory. Extra memory is always nice to have but it would increase the price of the graphics card, so we need to find the right balance.
"
Nvidia's dreamland VRAM consumption idea = 4-6 GB memory at 4K
Reality after 8 months = 8.5-9 GB used memory at 1440p/1080p and pushing the boundaries of 10 GB at 4K
Hmm, that's 1 game out of 10 thousand games. And the 10GB card still ran the game at 102fps at 4K and we'll over 100 fps at lower resolutions.
So... folks'll maybe need to significantly cut their reasonably expected settings/res with a 3080 sooner than maybe they'd like?
Not tomorrow or next month obviously, but starting within 6 months or so, increasingly thereafter, and sooner than with a 6800XT or 6900XT.
I mean, lowering expectations comes to all GPU's eventually, it's just... my 1070 ran 2560x1080 very nicely for 2.5 years or so until I lowered to 1080p in the last 2.5 years for the same perf, where it mostly still sits well now; high/ultra 60 fps or so in all but few very recent games. That 8Gb is being stretched to the limit now though.
But we're already talking about a 3080 not getting it done at 4K and seeing signs that's not so far off?
Well, cool for the folks that buy anew every gen or even multiple times within a gen. Not so great for the folks that want some kind of longevity from an MSRP no longer exists, 200+% mark up card. If you can get one even.
Not tomorrow or next month obviously, but starting within 6 months or so, increasingly thereafter, and sooner than with a 6800XT or 6900XT.
I mean, lowering expectations comes to all GPU's eventually, it's just... my 1070 ran 2560x1080 very nicely for 2.5 years or so until I lowered to 1080p in the last 2.5 years for the same perf, where it mostly still sits well now; high/ultra 60 fps or so in all but few very recent games. That 8Gb is being stretched to the limit now though.
But we're already talking about a 3080 not getting it done at 4K and seeing signs that's not so far off?
Well, cool for the folks that buy anew every gen or even multiple times within a gen. Not so great for the folks that want some kind of longevity from an MSRP no longer exists, 200+% mark up card. If you can get one even.
Caporegime
Good point, I forgot about Residen Evil, that’s another along with Godfall.RE Village, again
2080ti and 78 FPS at 4K RT. Clearly, the "grunt" is there.
"We’re constantly analyzing memory requirements of the latest games and regularly review with game developers to understand their memory needs for current and upcoming games.....A few examples - if you look at Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Gears of War 5, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 running on a 3080 at 4k with Max settings (including any applicable high res texture packs) and RTX On, when the game supports it, you get in the range of 60-100fps and use anywhere from 4GB to 6GB of memory. Extra memory is always nice to have but it would increase the price of the graphics card, so we need to find the right balance.
"
Nvidia's dreamland VRAM consumption idea = 4-6 GB memory at 4K
Reality after 8 months = 8.5-9 GB used memory at 1440p/1080p and pushing the boundaries of 10 GB at 4K
I’ve heard Watchdogs can be similar too at 4K with max settings also but have not really looked into it. Hopefully we see more games pushing the video memory limits going forward.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this.
The 3080 is the 2nd best performing card at 4k. The 1st best card is the 3090. 3rd place is 6900xt and 4th is 6800xt. So if the 3080 is not getting it done, that means the 6900xt and 6800xt is doing what exactly?
Good point, I forgot about Residen Evil, that’s another along with Godfall.
I’ve heard Watchdogs can be similar too at 4K with max settings also but have not really looked into it. Hopefully we see more games pushing the video memory limits going forward.
I read Godfall is a ps5 game port that's poorly optimised for pc. Watchdogs also has lazy optimisation. Even if they chuck 24gb on the card, it won't make a sizable difference visually or performance wise for those games.
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