10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

[no_1_dave]

Had my 3080 since launch, paid £670 and had no vram issues in any of the games I've played

Can honestly say 10GB has been plenty

If you don't feel it's enough, buy a different card. Easy!!

 

[tommybhoy]

10Gb was never enough in the first place for the life of the gpu, running it on optimal settings within it's 10Gb budget it's a cracking gpu.

But for all the people with a good grasp of common sense- bringing out the 12Gb ones so they didn't run out@1440p never mind 4K is all you need to know.

 

[tommybhoy]

A grand total of one owner having issues proves nothing and is just as likely to be problems elsewhere in his setup, besides if it was that bad he would have upgraded to one of the 16gb AMD cards now that the price has crashed and they can't even give them away.

In his defence, its a grand total of at least two owners having issues, as I found the exact same issues he was having in far cry 6.

To be clear Bill, there were more than two but thanks to guys like yourself we knew about it ages ago and had the evidence.

Seems like it's three users in this thread Bill. (four if you count Stooeh above I guess )

There's been other 10Gb 80 users in various different threads since myself, Gerard, Bill, now there's Stooeh reporting the 10Gb problems on FC6.

 

[gpuerrilla]

There's been other 10Gb 80 users in various different threads since myself, Gerard and Bill reported 10Gb problems on FC6 could be Stooeh but it's been acknowledged as happening in here ages ago.

In the famous words of debunker.. thousands of people online <insert company forum name> have also been reporting issues. You just have to go a search, its all there. Then there are the silent lurkers that never post here on a small proportion of the internet that have experienced it. Numbers mean nothing now, the denial show me evidence over a year ago has passed and we all know its a weakness. The case has been closed really its only when fresh moments crop up from hardware channels sharing their thoughts that you see other people noticed it. What will likely evolve from this is will the hill defenders keep said card for a while after Ada releases.

 

[tommybhoy]

Did I miss any lads?

Running HD pack forgetting to use a RT'ing scene in FC6???

 

[tommybhoy]

In the famous words of debunker.. thousands of people online <insert company forum name> have also been reporting issues. You just have to go a search, its all there. Then there are the silent lurkers that never post here on a small proportion of the internet that have experienced it. Numbers mean nothing now, the denial show me evidence over a year ago has passed and we all know its a weakness. The case has been closed really its only when fresh moments crop up from hardware channels sharing their thoughts that you see other people noticed it. What will likely evolve from this is will the hill defenders keep said card for a while after Ada releases.

Tbh there's not many owners that will speak up, you always want to think your purchase is the best there is when it isn't always so.

 

[TNA]

This thread always delivers.

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[humbug]

Don't forget back in 2020 when these cards released there was a global shortage of GDDR6 so using double would not only have cost more but likely have impacted how many cards could be produced which would have also effected prices.

Even with just 8gb being used supply couldn't meet demand so imagine a further reduction in supply.

Its not using double, the memory IC's are 32Bit each if they are 1GB or 2GB, so on a 256Bit Bus you have 8 IC's.

So for example the RTX 3060 has a 192Bit Bus, that's 6 memory IC's, options are 6GB or 12GB, Nvidia went 12GB for a $329 card, how much extra do you think the 2GB IC's cost over the 1GB IC's?

 

[Bill Turnip]

About tree fiddy

 

[Joxeon]

There's been other 10Gb 80 users in various different threads since myself, Gerard, Bill, now there's Stooeh reporting the 10Gb problems on FC6.

The thing is that's only one of maybe a couple of games in the 2 years since release and can be remedied by dropping a couple of settings, the other option of course 2 years ago was paying £750 more to not have to drop any settings in FC 6 but you would have still had to in cyberpunk.

Its not using double, the memory IC's are 32Bit each if they are 1GB or 2GB, so on a 256Bit Bus you have 8 IC's.

So for example the RTX 3060 has a 192Bit Bus, that's 6 memory IC's, options are 6GB or 12GB, Nvidia went 12GB for a $329 card, how much extra do you think the 2GB IC's cost over the 1GB IC's?

Looking at most other ram based products when you double the size the cost increases by around 70% so I'd imagine GDDR6 won't be to dissimilar.

You pay for that extra VRAM on the 3060 which is why it's price to performance is quite weak against the 3060ti.

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[humbug]

The thing is that's only one of maybe a couple of games in the 2 years since release and can be remedied by dropping a couple of settings, the other option of course 2 years ago was paying £750 more to not have to drop any settings in FC 6 but you would have still had to in cyberpunk.

Looking at most other ram based products when you double the size the cost increases by around 70% so I'd imagine GDDR6 won't be to dissimilar.

You pay for that extra VRAM on the 3060 which is why it's price to performance is quite weak against the 3060ti.

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Weak against the 3060Ti?

Ok, lets look at all the GPU's that are "Weak" against the RTX 3060.

3070
6800
6800XT
5700
5700XT
3080
2060S
2060
2070S
6900XT
2070
2080S
2080
3090
2080Ti

Basically everything else...

 

[Twinz]

My 3080 (now moved to my wife's PC) ran out of GPU horsepower first. I can't run max settings on any of my VR sims. -Not even iRacing, and that's a well-optimized title.
10gb 3080 can't do it.
12gb 3080Ti can't do it.
16gb 6800xt can't do it.
So many people worring about turning down settings. I had to turn down settings from day one, and it had nothing ro do with vram.

"Just wait till you have to turn down settings!" They say.

Been there, done that. Still doing it. (and not because of vram)

 

[Joxeon]

Weak against the 3060Ti?

Ok, lets look at all the GPU's that are "Weak" against the RTX 3060.

3070
6800
6800XT
5700
5700XT
3080
2060S
2060
2070S
6900XT
2070
2080S
2080
3090
2080Ti

Basically everything else...

Take a closer look at the chart and you'll see that as you come down the ampere product stack the cost per frame of the lower card always improves but the 3060 bucks this trend. The summary picks up on this and says in terms of cost per frame the card is priced around $50 too high so that'll be how much the additional VRAM is costing.

 

[Nexus18]

Good to see more "owners" speaking up about their experience with the 3080 10gb, looks like we all agree that the 3080 amongst other cards have long run out of grunt before vram became the problem

Had my 3080 since launch, paid £670 and had no vram issues in any of the games I've played

Can honestly say 10GB has been plenty

If you don't feel it's enough, buy a different card. Easy!!

Sadly, most of the inner knitting circle don't even own the 3080 and have a 6950xt and a 3090 yet are the most vocal about all these vram issues plaguing the 3080 10gb The best part is one works for AMD and the other has admitted he originally wanted a 3080 as it was the better card for the money but it's ok, he was able to mine back all the money in the end

This thread always delivers.

It certainly does I wasn't joking when I said about being back to the fc 6 debate and now we're on the topic of the cost of vram, it really does say it all

 

[Troezar]

The smart strategy is buy midrange, upgrade every generation, costs less, consistent performance, VRAM is no longer an issue Cost no object? Just buy high end every generation, still no VRAM issue.
I used to think buying close to the top card and keeping for 5 years was a good idea but I've changed my ideas on that. You get the worst of almost all worlds, especially as the tech ages, YMMV.
@Gibbo you can thank me later

 

[gpuerrilla]

Tbh there's not many owners that will speak up, you always want to think your purchase is the best there is when it isn't always so.

Yes this is fact.

The thing people misinterpret though is the discussion is all about "is 10 enough" it is not that we are saying the card is unusable or rubbish. The card is a solid card. As multiple channels have pointed out in recent times - for the price you are paying you should have more. I dont think you will catch the 12GB variant with same issues. When the manufacturer did this, speaks for itself.

 

[ASMB]

Buying into lower midrange performance has IMO never been better thanks to upscaling tech, with DLSS a 2060 can give the perform of a 2080 super using native settings in control, https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-12-gb/33.html
The charts also show that the 3080 10Gb doesn't have any massive drop in performance compared to the 3080ti. Compare that to the performance of the 3070ti against my 2060 12Gb in 4k doom eternal with raytracing, when the vram makes a massive difference

 

[gpuerrilla]

The thing is that's only one of maybe a couple of games in the 2 years since release and can be remedied by dropping a couple of settings, the other option of course 2 years ago was paying £750 more to not have to drop any settings in FC 6 but you would have still had to in cyberpunk.

You seem to be of the same school of numbers as debunker. As earlier in the posts above you said one person, which turned out to be way more than that. Now your saying its a couple of games, which again is way more than that. Stop trying to be a politician about it and accept that it happens. The list will only grow.

#blameitonlocalsystem
#blameitonthegame

 

[Nexus18]

You seem to be of the same school of numbers as debunker. As earlier in the posts above you said one person, which turned out to be way more than that. Now your saying its a couple of games, which again is way more than that. Stop trying to be a politician about it and accept that it happens. The list will only grow.

#blameitonlocalsystem
#blameitonthegame

You keep saying "way more games" but yet you and others still haven't listed all of these games showing evidence to back this up? Other than echoing some comments/each other posts where they say "zOMG 3080 stutters", which have nothing of actual substance/evidence to back up said comments... Hence why we are back to FC 6 yet again...

What about the games where not only is a 3080 10gb suffering from stuttering/fps issues but so is the 6900xt and 3090 so not exactly a vram issue then is it? Wouldn't kill you to apply some logic once in a while.

Why is that so hard to post the games with footage showing said issues on the 3080 10gb model? I have been able to post footage in said supposed games, which supposedly "suffer because of vram" yet said issues don't show in my footage nor the reviews nor the majority of peoples footage out there on youtube e.g. RE village, godfall, doom eternal, hzd etc. So if nothing can be posted to show this, then as we all have suspected since the very start, basically just talking out of your ass and you wonder why the majority of people don't take the inner knitting circle seriously

Again, it's hilarious that I am the only person to have posted a video showcasing a legitimate 100% vram issue

Don't remember you picking up on matt using the "local system issue" line when he was trying to explain why there was stuttering issues on the 6800xt in doom eternal either Mental gymnastics for you ladies and gentlemen....

I watched that video and honestly it looks like a possible local system issue.

Yes this is fact.

The thing people misinterpret though is the discussion is all about "is 10 enough" it is not that we are saying the card is unusable or rubbish. The card is a solid card. As multiple channels have pointed out in recent times - for the price you are paying you should have more. I dont think you will catch the 12GB variant with same issues. When the manufacturer did this, speaks for itself.

Fact....

You do realise that it's the complete opposite, as anyone who has been on the internet/social media for long enough will know..... people with issues/negative experiences are far more likely to post.

EDIT:

Since you are such an expert on launches and know nvidias business practices, care to tell us why nvidia axed the 3080 12gb model a couple of months back? Oh wait, sorry, I know the answer to this "to force people to buy the lower vram model so that they'll have to upgrade sooner than later because of vram.... nvidia bad!"

 

[G J]

So as a GPU ages and starts to run of of steam you may have to turn down some setting thats ok. When a card starts to hit a VRAM limit you may have to turn down some settings and some people in this thread, the people that dont even have the card are pretty much NO THATS NOT ALLOWED!!1.

If one could not play games at all because of VRAM limit you might have a point.

My 2070s when I had it which is pretty much a 1080ti in performance tapped out multiple times way before the VRAM ever became an issue when cranking settings and this wasnt in the latest games. I cant see how the 11GB on the 1080ti would really give it any more life then a 2070s and the 2070s can do DLSS/RT.