Caporegime
Some people just want the best and have the money to buy these things. Everyone buys to their own preference and means, depending on their priorities.
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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..
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Caporegime
Its what i have been trying to tell people, i don't need 90 vs 120 FPS, what i need is more VRam.
The GPU i have is mostly fine for my needs, apart from Volumetric Clouds in Star Citizen, which absolutely murder it, i just need a bigger buffer.
Star Citizen performance test
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Why not just pick up a 3060 12gb then?Its what i have been trying to tell people, i don't need 90 vs 120 FPS, what i need is more VRam.
The GPU i have is mostly fine for my needs, apart from Volumetric Clouds in Star Citizen, which absolutely murder it, i just need a bigger buffer.
Star Citizen performance test
Soldato
That's what I had to do from day one with my 3080. I know you were being sarcastic here, but a $700 card has to have the settings turned down sometimes.
-And here we are, back to my original point. Is turning down settings only a "problem" when it's because of vram?
Well it is when you have a narrative you wish to push
Then you get the “Oh no, but look at thread title, it is a about vram”. The funny part is, the same users then proceed to bang on about off topic rubbish when it suits them in the very same thread
Soldato
Well it is when you have a narrative you wish to push
Then you get the “Oh no, but look at thread title, it is a about vram”. The funny part is, the same users then proceed to bang on about off topic rubbish when it suits them in the very same thread
I got the impression it was a sarcastic remark that a $700 graphics card shouldn't need to play at lowered settings. The problem is that lowered settings is a reality sometimes...even for a "$700" graphics card.
Now, if he wants to argue that turning down settings is fine when any other resource can't keep up, but unacceptable when it's because of vram, well, that's an opinion he's welcome to hold, but I don't find it persuasive myself.
To be fair my post was not targeting humbug specifically because this has come up here in the past before he got involved.
Soldato
How many would have rather the 3080 had 12gb VRAM in the first place and this thread wouldn't have happened?
I would but more for the extra bandwidth of a 384 bit bus rather than VRAM, it wouldn't have cost 650 quid though.How many would have rather the 3080 had 12gb VRAM in the first place and this thread wouldn't have happened?
Just using this quote to link into the discussion.Bla bla bla.
Gave you a link that shows 33% performance improvement, which you did not refute. Now you are stuck strawmaning
When you take into account the extra power draw of the Ampere 3070 over the Turing 2070 IMO the amount of performance per watt increase from Turing to Ampere isn't great, certainly less than AMD aimed for from RDNA1 to RDNA2 and what they claim is going to be more than 50% from RDNA2 to RDNA3. Putting extra memory on the 4080 is only going to add to the power usage, my 2060 12Gb uses a fair bit more power than the 2060 6GB.
ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua OC Review - The Quietest Graphics Card
The ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua OC is the quietest graphics card we ever tested thanks to a dual 120 mm fan setup made by Noctua. It runs so quietly, you'll have to put your ear right next to it to hear it at all even when fully loaded while gaming.
Caporegime
I think that’s something we can all agree on.How many would have rather the 3080 had 12gb VRAM in the first place and this thread wouldn't have happened?
Caporegime
At a cost i believe it is, the instant we accept a $700 GPU is a "compromised GPU" we are #######.
How many would have rather the 3080 had 12gb VRAM in the first place and this thread wouldn't have happened?
But the MSRP of the 12GB 3080 is $500 more, that's proof Nvidia are actually doing us a favour.
Caporegime
Its a step down in performance.
You'd be to busy admiring those Volumetric Clouds to even notice.
That's because Samsung 8nm isn't much better for effiency than TSMC 12.Just using this quote to link into the discussion.
When you take into account the extra power draw of the Ampere 3070 over the Turing 2070 IMO the amount of performance per watt increase from Turing to Ampere isn't great, certainly less than AMD aimed for from RDNA1 to RDNA2 and what they claim is going to be more than 50% from RDNA2 to RDNA3. Putting extra memory on the 4080 is only going to add to the power usage, my 2060 12Gb uses a fair bit more power than the 2060 6GB.
ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua OC Review - The Quietest Graphics Card
The ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua OC is the quietest graphics card we ever tested thanks to a dual 120 mm fan setup made by Noctua. It runs so quietly, you'll have to put your ear right next to it to hear it at all even when fully loaded while gaming.www.techpowerup.com
Nvidia should do better this time around unless they go for crazy clocks and all out performance but if they do there will be options to underclock/undervolt to dramatically cut power draw and improve effiency.
Exactly. Plus at the end of the day the discussion was about whether there was a difference between a 2070S and a 3070.
How many would have rather the 3080 had 12gb VRAM in the first place and this thread wouldn't have happened?
Nope. Because then the price would not have been the same. Just like it ain’t even until today. I still would have saved the extra money. What difference would the extra 2gb have made anyway? Same people would still be saying yeah but it does not run FC6.
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