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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..
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I think I will be doing this too. Currently on a gtx 1080 and back then it made more sense to upgrade every 2 generations. With todays prices though I think you're right. 10gb should be fine, and in 2 years when we are more into next gen we will have a better idea of the VRAM required since big games will be out, and probably be able to get a 16gb+ 4080.
100% more price ( actually more for me here in australia ) for at max 20% performance seems insane to me. Worse comes to worse and VRAM is bottlenecking us, we can sell our 3080 while its worth more, get a ti / super and skip 4000 ( if vram is the only bottleneck )
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Yup chasing down the top tier cards is a mugs game now considering the premium.
Sticking to mid-range cards is certainly far healthier for your bank balance.
Sticking to mid-range cards is certainly far healthier for your bank balance.
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I agree, I remember going from 780 to 1080 and before that it was worth going every 2nd gen. Now its impossible to chase until you're henry cavil or linus being sent 4 of them. The fact it costs the same or maybe even less to upgrade from the 2nd top card every gen now is stupid - and good I guess.
I wonder if when we go to sell our 10gb 3080 at the end of the generation if no one wants it if 10gb is nothing, and everyone wants the 20gb.
Although I guess theres always someone out there.
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By the time games routinely use and not just allocate 10Gb+ VRAM your GPU core won't be able to catch up.
Early next gen console games might not even look that amazing, to a PC gamer at any rate, and will take 2-3 years before Devs can leverage the extra power.
By then we are on the four thousand series equivalent from NV.
Early next gen console games might not even look that amazing, to a PC gamer at any rate, and will take 2-3 years before Devs can leverage the extra power.
By then we are on the four thousand series equivalent from NV.
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Thats the thing, the segment of people on here that might want the 16gb or 20gb is probably quite large but most actual gamers in the wild are still 1080p/1440p which a 3080 10gb is going to be fine till the next gen of cards come out and after, I mean I play with a 1080 with 8GB at 1440p and never even got close to using all 8 yet. and that card is what 4 years old I would take with a large pinch of salt what people say on this forum because in general it'a such a small niche of the overall market.
Exactly... the idea that a game "won't run" with 10GB VRAM or less is a complete and utter joke, even looking over the next few years... fair enough to say it won't run with ultra settings and everything turned up to 11, but that is very different to saying it won't run. The vast majority of gamers are using budget cards, and no game publisher is going to release a game that only 10% of the market can run.
Short of your MS Flight Sims etc, are there even any mainstream games that would come close to using 10GB VRAM? I've got a Gigabyte RTX 2080 Gaming OC which has 8GB, and for your CoD/Witcher 3/Rainbow6/RPGs even at max settings 3440x1440 it hasn't seem to be even close to a limiting factor.
Only 8Gb has been shown to have bottleneck in Doom at 4k and BFV with ray tracing on - this is part of the reason that the 3080 looked so much better than the 2080 in these games
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The problem isn't games that are already out, it's games that are coming out in 12-24 months. Who wants to spend £700 on a card that is potentially unable to last more than a year?
What do you mean? It won't magically stop working, at worst you just go one lower texture setting. Before you say yeah but who wants to pay £700 and do that, well I will say two things.
One, people spent £1200 on a 2080Ti and could not even run Red Dead Redemption 2 with everything on ultra on 4K 60fps, did this mean no one should ever have bothered playing that game? Nope. Two, go compare the highest texture with one lower in doom eternal and come back and show me a clearly visible difference. No one ever can when I ask, because you need a still shot and a magnifying glass. It seems to me the difference is one is slightly less compressed. Sure there maybe small difference, but nothing night and day you will notice when playing.
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If you are buying a card to turn down settings, why are you even spending £700 on a card? If I buy the flagship I do not want to be making sacrifices to its performance a year later. I would buy something half the price instead.
The flagship card should be able to max games longer than a year or so.
I can see 10GB being an issue down the line @4k but by then I think most of us 3080 early adopters will be onto the Ti or next best thing anyway. I probably wouldn't get a 10GB card if I was planning to keep it for years but I have every intention of going Ti if/when it happens. If the 20GB 3080 was available now for say an extra £200 I would still get the 10GB card.
So I think if you want a card to last >2 years then wait and get more VRAM for 4k. If not, 10GB is a good sweet spot for now.
So I think if you want a card to last >2 years then wait and get more VRAM for 4k. If not, 10GB is a good sweet spot for now.
My guess is the 3080 super will be the 20gb variant of the 3080 at £950.
Turn off what settings? Every game out now runs maxed as far as I know?
I already answered your question before you posed it. Each to their own, but I can't see 10gb being an issue before next gen cards release for me based on what I have seen.
When Crysis came out, were you one of the one's winging you could not max it out? It is what it is, I do not intend to keep the card longer than 18-24 months, so 10gb will be perfectly fine as I explained in my previous comment. Oh and you keep saying £700. I paid £649.99 for my ASUS TUF and will be getting cash back to from my card also, so it will be even cheaper
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Turn off what settings? Every game out now runs maxed as far as I know?
I already answered your question before you posed it. Each to their own, but I can't see 10gb being an issue before next gen cards release for me based on what I have seen.
When Crysis came out, were you one of the one's winging you could not max it out? It is what it is, I do not intend to keep the card longer than 18-24 months, so 10gb will be perfectly fine as I explained in my previous comment. Oh and you keep saying £700. I paid £649.99 for my ASUS TUF and will be getting cash back to from my card also, so it will be even cheaper
Nope I wasn't at all but then when Crysis came out I didn't spend that much money on a card. Plus you paying less doesn't affect what the standard pricing now. If you are happy that's fine I am not here to tell people they are stupid for buying a 10GB version, but I don't see them having much longevity in them.
It just needs to last 18-24 months until next gen and it has done it's job for me. Turning texture down one setting or enabling dlss in the odd game that comes out between now and then is not an issue either. As I say, there is hardly any difference between the highest and one lower texture setting in most cases. No big deal.
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If you are happy to do that it's fine I wouldn't be happy spending that much andpotentially having to compromise anyway. Enjoy the card though mate, I am waiting to see what AMD bring to the table and make a decision based on that.
That money is just from my GPU fund that keeps getting recycled. I always sell my GPU's before the price plummets, so not like the money is all lost already. I will likely recover no less than 2/3rd's of it. I think the turning down settings thing "compromise" is just in your head. No card remains top dog forever, nor does it stay running maximum settings forever. Just look at the 2080Ti that cost a hell of a lot more than £650, it cannot run all settings maxed either. Look at Radeon 7, has 16gb VRAM, but what good is that if not enough grunt?
Basically your viewpoint is you buy cards that you keep long term and don't sell so you want more vram, I can appreciate that, if I was planing to keep the 3080 forever I would be concerned too. But for people only keeping it for 1 gen like me, it ain't an issue. I also do not see turning down texture setting one notch in a future game as compromise either, when experience has shown me in most cases you need to take still shots and compare them to see the difference.
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Not even so much that. I have a 1080Ti currently and am looking to upgrade. It just throws me that they went from 11GB on the 1080Ti and the 2080Ti to 10GB on the 3080, especially when there are already outliers that are approaching that limit.
I am still unsure why they knocked it down if they deemed both previous flagships of warranting more. I still would be unhappy with a card hitting VRAM bottlenecks a year after spending £650+ on it though no matter what it had.
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