14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

[Andy Pandy]

So I took the plunge and replaced my 12900K with a 14900KF and I have to say whats all the fuss about with power and temps I am seeing?

I'm on a 360 AIO with "Typical scenario" for SVID set in bios and then a 0.07500 undervolt it maxed out at 1.288v running Cinebench R23 with a score of 41871 and the kicker a max temp if 77c lol it's cooler than my 12900K and also maxed out at 288w for Cinebench.

My Pcore SP score is 108 however I do not know how accurate that is I'm in Z690

Mine arrived today but I’ve only had a quick play with it. I’ve left everything stock apart from enabling xmp

I have a Corsair h150i elite lcd along with some Corsair case fans, I left everything on balanced in the icue software. After loading Cinebench the temps nearly instantly hit 100 degrees for me.

I need to learn how to set things up in the bios better that’s for sure!

 

[Adrian1976]

Mine arrived today but I’ve only had a quick play with it. I’ve left everything stock apart from enabling xmp

I have a Corsair h150i elite lcd along with some Corsair case fans, I left everything on balanced in the icue software. After loading Cinebench the temps nearly instantly hit 100 degrees for me.

I need to learn how to set things up in the bios better that’s for sure!

I'm on a Elite 150i Capellix, Is it an asus bios? If so check the Svid is not on Auto let bios optimise, When I first installed mine earlier and loaded optimised defaults it pumps way too much voltage through the CPU mine was at 1.475v in the bios because of the SVID being on auto.

 

[Andy Pandy]

I'm on an Elite 150i Capellix, Is it an asus bios? If so check the Svid is not on Auto let bios optimise, When I first installed mine earlier and loaded optimised defaults it pumps way too much voltage through the CPU mine was at 1.475v in the bios because of the SVID being on auto.

Yes I’m on an Asus z690 strix motherboard. I’ve never really tinkered with the settings in the bios, what do change the svid to from auto? I think I noticed around 1.4v too

 

[humbug]

They look pretty even to me, slightly slower on multicore, slightly faster on single core.

So its slower...

 

[Adrian1976]

Yes I’m on an Asus z690 strix motherboard. I’ve never really tinkered with the settings in the bios, what do change the svid to from auto? I think I noticed around 1.4v too

Try changing the SVID behaviour to "Typical Scenario" it's under the Asus Multicore Enhancement setting.

Check your voltage again and if it's lower than what it's currently set at try a Cinebench run again and check the temps and voltages again, If it passes but you still want to try and lower power consumption and temps further you can then try setting a negative Vcore offset via Global Core Svid Voltage which will be in auto by default if you change it to offset and change the + to a - in the drop down box then underneath you can set a negative offset voltage mine is at 0.0750 I think it was, This will be trial and error to see what the minimum voltage required is for stability but you can greatly reduce power and temps by doing that, Obviously silicon quality plays a part also.

 

[Joxeon]

So its slower...

Still a near 30% improvement in price to performance over a 13900k makes it a decent option for those who want to game + do some productivity while not spending a fortune.

 

[Andy Pandy]

Try changing the SVID behaviour to "Typical Scenario" it's under the Asus Multicore Enhancement setting.

Check your voltage again and if it's lower than what it's currently set at try a Cinebench run again and check the temps and voltages again, If it passes but you still want to try and lower power consumption and temps further you can then try setting a negative Vcore offset via Global Core Svid Voltage which will be in auto by default if you change it to offset and change the + to a - in the drop down box then underneath you can set a negative offset voltage mine is at 0.0750 I think it was, This will be trial and error to see what the minimum voltage required is for stability but you can greatly reduce power and temps by doing that, Obviously silicon quality plays a part also.

Thanks I’ll try that tomorrow . I think my sp score was 98 so not as high as yours if that makes much of a difference.

 

[shotski]

Oh good, it's finally on the way... I wonder what delayed it, I ordered 12 minutes after pre-orders went live

 

[SimonV6]

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[Adrian1976]

Thanks I’ll try that tomorrow . I think my sp score was 98 so not as high as yours if that makes much of a difference.

No worries you're welcome, I don't know how accurate this reading is on Z690 but generally the higher the better apparently.

 

[humbug]

Still a near 30% improvement in price to performance over a 13900k makes it a decent option for those who want to game + do some productivity while not spending a fortune.

No, its slower.

 

[Nickolp1974]

No worries you're welcome, I don't know how accurate this reading is on Z690 but generally the higher the better apparently.

not sure on other boards but z790 apex has to be on latest bios, 1501, to report the correct SP numbers, earlier bios revisions are reporting higher SP numbers

 

[IT Troll]

The new software-based optimisation which is for "14th gen" only is really shady.

 

[Troezar]

The new software-based optimisation which is for "14th gen" only is really shady.

Sounds very unlike Intel

 

[Adrian1976]

not sure on other boards but z790 apex has to be on latest bios, 1501, to report the correct SP numbers, earlier bios revisions are reporting higher SP numbers

Yeah I am on the latest bios and ME version however I did read somewhere they're not sure on the validity of these SP scores with Z690 so I am not sure.

 

[Khem1st]

Got my 14700K and new motherboard and ram sitting ready to go. Will my Artic Freezer II 280mm be enough for this? Ive only seen max load temps but nothing really for gaming but i know these things are running hotter than the previous gen.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Got my 14700K and new motherboard and ram sitting ready to go. Will my Artic Freezer II 280mm be enough for this? Ive only seen max load temps but nothing really for gaming but i know these things are running hotter than the previous gen.

If you tame the voltage in the BIOS it will be absolutely fine.

If you leave it default and run something like Cinebench, it likely will hit 100c.

280mm performs very similarly to the 360mm because of the thicker rad.

 

[jigger]

The best thing about 14th gen is you can get £600 13900k performance for £400 now with the 14700k, given that a £500 7800XT offered 3 year old 6800XT performance for £100 less and seemed to be a hit then I’m surprised a defacto £200 price drop in just a year isn’t receiving more plaudits.

Seems the RX 7800XT is more like 6900XT performance. The draw with the 7800XT is the price compared to what Nvidia charge.

 

[malachi]

Got my 14700K and new motherboard and ram sitting ready to go. Will my Artic Freezer II 280mm be enough for this? Ive only seen max load temps but nothing really for gaming but i know these things are running hotter than the previous gen.

I have the Artic Freezer II 280mm on my 13900K with zero problems, so you be fine.

 

[Khem1st]

I have the Artic Freezer II 280mm on my 13900K with zero problems, so you be fine.

Great stuff, thanks.