How does your T-shirt fit? My mate Mark sent you one i believe.
2008 Canadian Grand Prix - Race 7/18
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How does your T-shirt fit? My mate Mark sent you one i believe.
When your doing nearly 200mph and your back end steps out and your in a hell of a mess, do you honestly think he was thinking about hitting Sutil or not? No. he was working purely on instinct, just as hamilton did when he realised (too late) that Kimi and Robert where stationary. I'd love to think he deliberately rammed Kimi and not Robert but I'm 99% sure thats not the case. It looks like he was hoping he'd get passed between kimi and the wall.
Hey DC managed to have an accident there all on his own,i'm pretty sure Kimi would have done all he could to avoid that crash.
rules are rules.
if he passed that red light its either
instant black flag
or in the case of failure/retirement before black flag 10 places at next GP.
and i agree with NathanE, i think they should put the "traffic light" on both sides of the pit lane exit so its next to impossible to miss it.
However i dont know why you think the pitlane is a issue at Canada?
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I have a question, why do they need to stop cars coming out of the pitlane while the safety car and train are going past ? its not like they wait for drivers to pass when at racing speed.
On the odd occasion that the train is there when the driver is ready to come out they could simply leave the pit lane and stay left of the line as per usual and join at the back of the queue instead of stopping everyone at an artificial line that they are usually desperate to get past.
On the odd occasion that the train is there when the driver is ready to come out they could simply leave the pit lane and stay left of the line as per usual and join at the back of the queue instead of stopping everyone at an artificial line that they are usually desperate to get past.
I know its been discussed on here but why are no questions asked as to why Kimi and Robert were side by side at the light. Was it only Robert that saw the light? Kimi managed to react quicker than the other two but ended up next to Robert?
the pitlane was wide enough for 2 cars, and kimi was released right into kubicas path, and they was... inches appart in the order (kubica leading by inches i mean). Side by side upto the lights... they both stopped at the traffic light... We know what happend next
its just some people forget that 
I thought because there was a potential that the driver may join part way through the train in an attempt to 'jump the queue' rather than join at the back which can happen when you have a short pit lane.
To prevent and formalise it the FIA make you wait away from the snake at the end of the pitlane to ensure you can only join at the back and gain no advantage.
Pretty sure if you watch the accident you can actually see the road markings indicating the 2 lanes - effectively cars can 'race' down there if they get released in the same space. though it does depend on the pit lane...the pitlane was wide enough for 2 cars, and kimi was released right into kubicas path, and they was... inches appart in the order (kubica leading by inches i mean). Side by side upto the lights... they both stopped at the traffic light... We know what happend next
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Pretty sure if you watch the accident you can actually see the road markings indicating the 2 lanes - effectively cars can 'race' down there if they get released in the same space. though it does depend on the pit lane...
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thats what im saying isnt it? the pit lane is wide enough for this sort of "action".
He drove into someone in the pits. Harsh but fair, I think. I do think they need to make the red lights clearer though; there's been a stack of incidents over them this season. Perhaps a few more sets down the pit lane.
I know! That Kimi stopping for the red light. Shocking behaviour.
I know! That Kimi stopping for the red light. Shocking behaviour.
"Racing down the pitlane" is what the Messiahs fans want kimi done for. It simply wasn't his fault he crashed into a stationery car. Light was too high. Oh and the team informed him of the red light but he was too preoccupied doing something else. Not the poor lads fault.
Was just agreeing with you since it seems there was confusion in the thread why they were side by side
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that is the best picture ive ever seen
People are just making discussion, stop trying to accuse everyone of being a LH fan boy... there is no need.
The reason people are questioning KR's dragging of Kubica down the pit lane is because... if you look in the FIA F1 Sporting Code. There is actually nothing that states that this is allowed nor disallowed. However the rules do at one point explicitly state that the pit lane is divided into a "fast lane" (closest to the pit wall) and a "slow lane" (closest to the garages). So it can be inferred from that that any car in the slow lane travelling faster than a car in the fast lane (in this case Kubica) has broken the rules. However I do agree that the rules in this area are particularly vague.
I would not be surprised if this rule is looked at for 2009.
Kimi caused an "avoidable" accident in Monaco - after all every accident is avoidable - but doesnt mean its worthy of a penalty
Everything isnt always as black and white as you suggest
Interesting point actually - has the Pit lane always been a "non" part of the racing track in regards to the safety car (ie no over taking under SC rules)
Surely they should HAVE to exit in the same order they came in with under the SC?
Seems stupid that you can race in the pit lane under the SC (when there is more danger of hurting people) and not on the actual track
It would still be interesting tactically if some chose to refuel and others didnt under an SC, (and they have slightly spoiled it for me in disallowing entrry to pitlane for first few laps of a SC for me) Im sure there is a rule - as it hasnt been mentioned, but it does seem backwards
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Where is farm? Only 1/3rd of the track was open before.Truth be told it's a little bit baggy, but I'll grow into it! Got any other freebies?!!
Leave it with me.
I tend to agree. However it would be silly if a rule was created that meant a team could screw up their pit stop and there would be no cost to them because he would just reclaim his position once he finally leaves.
IMO the whole "slow lane" "fast lane" stuff in the rules needs clarifying with regard to overtaking, especially under SC conditions. Also when a team with the lollipop lets their car out dangerously close to an oncoming car in the fast lane... the rules simply state "it is the teams responsibility" for this. That is so stupidly vague that if an accident did happen (and it will eventually) that the stewards could pretty much come to any conclusion they wanted.
It just seems silly that under a SC there can be a sort of mini race going on in the pit lane. The only "racing" in the pit lane should down to who gets the quickest pit stop.