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30xx Series Founders Edition

HangTime said:
That's what I thought, but shouldn't at least 1 core be running at close to 100% in that circumstance?
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Depending on the monitoring software that you're using it may be hard to spot, especially if you have transient peaks. Give it some 3D mark or heaven, something that mostly hits the gpu. If that gets you into the high 90s then your bottleneck is elsewhere. Could be cpu, could be ram speed, there will always be a bottleneck somewhre depending on what you're doing. Maybe get into a newer platform when you put the order in for the airflow case that you need. ;)
 
cpu's will exhibit bottleneck behaviour much lower than 100% in my experience. They can show signs of struggling even at 80-90%, bear in mind the utilisation is changing every microsecond, the utilisation presented in tools is a average of the polling period, so if you see something like 80% its not impossible it hit closer to 100% during the polling period.
 
xPETEZx said:
And I wonder if at least some of the people who say they dont have it, maybe just cant hear it? .
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Entirely possible. After reading about coil whine and FE cards I tried to make mine do it. I got to 700ish fps in a menu with 3d clocks on and my head in the case. Couldn't hear it. Listened to a Jayz2cents this is the worst coil whine we've ever heard video and it sounded like a camping kettle boiling in the next room.

We're all different when it come's to noise. I've got an old V twin bike with road legal exhausts, seems quiet to me. I've had a photographer complain that it was too quiet, a friend's young daughter wet herself when I started it and a guy with a modern bike that I stopped to help at the side of the road asked me, 'what the funk is that?
 
In and running, played a little Cyberpunk 2077, so much prettier and smoother.

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chrcoluk said:
cpu's will exhibit bottleneck behaviour much lower than 100% in my experience. They can show signs of struggling even at 80-90%, bear in mind the utilisation is changing every microsecond, the utilisation presented in tools is a average of the polling period, so if you see something like 80% its not impossible it hit closer to 100% during the polling period.
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Yeah that makes sense, the polling resolution is probably too coarse and I expect what's actually happening is a core hits 100% very briefly then flips to another core at 100%, so the average over the polling period for each core is only like 75% but actually for fraction of a second it's at 100%. I guess nowadays with so many threads (and well threaded games) it's hard to tell when you're actually maxed out on CPU based on the stats and you just have to interpolate that from GPU utilisation not being high 90s, compared to older software where you get a really obvious bottleneck with a single core pegged at 99%+.

edit: yep, I change the polling frequency in afterburner from 1000ms to 300ms (didn't want to go too low so I could actually read the numbers) and saw some spikes over 90% on some cores.

I found with Rise of the Tomb Raider if I set SMAA to 4x then it hits 100% GPU, so it can get that high when the load is heavily biased towards the GPU.

Need to figure out how to overclock the cpu properly, I find it all a bit confusing these days with all the auto boosting features and hundreds of settings etc, I'm used to the good old days of changing bus speed, core voltage and maybe a multiplier that's it :)
 
WolfHauser said:
Can anyone confirm if their 3090 Fe sounds like this under load? Its almost as bad playing control.
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You sir need to do the thermal pad mod. Your VRAM temps are going 100+ so I would not be surprised your fans are ramping up so loud. Made a world of difference to my temps now not higher than 86 on VRAM and soo much quieter. Could also try undervolting with MSI afterburner.
 
HangTime said:
That's what I thought, but shouldn't at least 1 core be running at close to 100% in that circumstance?
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The load can get spread out over cores if you have more cores than it needs, so you don't necessarily have one or more pegged at 100%. Games typically use a lot of threads, and they can end up on any core.

Also from a programming POV (I do this code all the time), if the CPU is waiting for something to complete, eg. a GPU command, then it may 'spin', ie. wait till the action is complete. If programmed a certain way, that time will show as idle time (ie. not as CPU load). Generally games try to avoid spinning and rather do something else in the meantime, but sometimes there's nothing to do on a thread for a short period.
 
projecthunder said:
You sir need to do the thermal pad mod. Your VRAM temps are going 100+ so I would not be surprised your fans are ramping up so loud. Made a world of difference to my temps now not higher than 86 on VRAM and soo much quieter. Could also try undervolting with MSI afterburner.
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I second your recommendation, I undervolted my newly received card to ~0.875V so far and it is making a huge difference.
Ironically, whilst my 650W PSU (Corsair CX650M) can handle the load (system draw is <400W thanks for Ryzen 5600x and my undervolt), the PSU's fan itself is clicking away (flipping orientation of PSU does not help either) so I'll need to upgrade.
 
xPETEZx said:
How long you had yours?
Mine gets better as it heats up. But next time, if playing from cold its back to as bad as before.
Undervolt has helped, but still annoying AF!
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I've probably had it 6 months now. Bought it from a forum member who'd had it since maybe October 2020.
 
I thought my 3080FE had coil whine but it turned out to be my Corsair RM 850i power supply. Even when mining with power draw of 280W (300W) from the wall it whines a lot and it’s only two years old.
And yes some people can’t hear the whine as I can only hear it in one ear and my wife can’t hear it at all.
 
z10m said:
I thought my 3080FE had coil whine but it turned out to be my Corsair RM 850i power supply. Even when mining with power draw of 280W (300W) from the wall it whines a lot and it’s only two years old.
And yes some people can’t hear the whine as I can only hear it in one ear and my wife can’t hear it at all.
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I have the opposite, I thought it was PSU but after replacing it with an NZXT 750W I found the same noise was occurring and it was as coil whine! Grrrr
 
Finding some older games result in the fans ramping up to higher speeds and very audible for some reason - not related to frame rate as I've already eliminated that and/or some of them are still graphically intensive enough they aren't running at 100s of FPS anyhow.

I played all though CP2077 and barely heard a noise out of my 3070FE - but playing some older stuff like City of Heroes after awhile fans ramp right up - sometimes just for a minute or two other times until I close the game.

Not sure what is going on there as it doesn't seem related to frame rate, thermals, etc.
 
Rroff said:
Finding some older games result in the fans ramping up to higher speeds and very audible for some reason - not related to frame rate as I've already eliminated that and/or some of them are still graphically intensive enough they aren't running at 100s of FPS anyhow.

I played all though CP2077 and barely heard a noise out of my 3070FE - but playing some older stuff like City of Heroes after awhile fans ramp right up - sometimes just for a minute or two other times until I close the game.

Not sure what is going on there as it doesn't seem related to frame rate, thermals, etc.
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Memory junction temperature?
 
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