8 Packs 4ghz 32m Challenge win full Haswell 4770K Bundle.

That's not what I said.

This competition will be won by someone who already has a Haswell or Ivybridge based machine. Meaning that they will have little use for the prize.

Anyone who would truly appreciate the upgrade has zero chance of winning.

I was just trying to understand why it didn't make sense and the part I quoted seemed to imply that the competition was pointless because people who own good hardware might win.

A further question I'd like to ask is what do you think the point of this competition is?

It's coming across that you think that it's main 'point' should be to provide an upgrade for someone with older hardware, that the winner should be based on how old or slow their hardware is. How about instead we pretend the 'point' may be to have a bit of fun and provide an incentive for people to learn and understand more about overclocking, this is after all an overclocking enthusiasts forum.

As previously mentioned, there are plenty of other competitions that do not require specific hardware to enter and they receive hundreds if not thousands of entries and a winner is picked at random. That winner may also have a good setup that in your eyes means they don't 'deserve' the prize but they still went to the effort of entering and just so happened to be successful.

Weren't you also a winner of a competition recently? Maybe the zoo one or the AMD wallpaper? I seem to remember seeing your name around then anyway. I didn't enter either of those competitions because I didn't know how to set up a signature or didn't have photoshop or similar to design a wallpaper. Instead of complaining about it though I just did that, didn't enter. If I had said anything it would have been to thank OcUK for the opportunity and maybe provide constructive criticism then be on my way.

Instead of repeatedly saying this competition is not fair or is pointless maybe you could have said something along the lines of 'I like this kind of competition however in future why not try...' that way you're telling OcUK that you would like to have more of this kind of competition without just throwing negativity at them making them wonder why they bothered and less likely to run anything similar again.

Sorry for the lengthy reply and I don't mean to pick on you it just seems that you are being one of the most vocal about this so I wanted to help you see it from another perspective. I love the OcUK forums and really commend their generosity I just don't want to see things go downhill and the recent levels of negativity I've seen would be enough to put anyone off.
 
I have just tried turning off 3 cores on my 3930k, turning off the hyperthreading and undervolting.

Did not make much difference.

What I don't understand is why at around 5.0ghz I can get the better of 2500/2600s but at 4.0ghz the best I can do is about 8.19 which is a lot slower. Does SB-E become less efficient at lower clock speeds or something.

I am not bothered about trying to win the competition (my entry had my ram running @1066mhz lol) but this 4.0ghz performance thing is a bit of a mystery.

im as baffled as you are,no idea why with faster ram/tighter timings im slower than some with lesser speed ram ect

if anything it should be quicker,higher cpu clocks I can breeze past them but not at 4ghz
 
To defend us moaners, I'd suggest a large number of posts on this forum are people moaning. Like people moaning about Titan prices or something like that.
I also recall people moaning when competitions have required Facebook or similar.
 
I like this kind of competition however in future why not try...

Making the playing-field more even so that more people have a chance of winning, and there is the possibility for someone to get a worthwhile upgrade out of it so they appreciate the prize more.

There you go petridish. :)

I don't mean to be so negative about it, you are right, OcUK don't have to run any competitions at all. and it is a wonder that they still do with people like me moaning all the time. I too love OcUK, and the forums, the little perks, the generosity and the feel of the whole community in general. But I truly believe that this competition is severely flawed.
 
To defend us moaners, I'd suggest a large number of posts on this forum are people moaning. Like people moaning about Titan prices or something like that.
I also recall people moaning when competitions have required Facebook or similar.

Not entering a competition because it has Facebook attached to it is a choice people make, not having hardware capable of being competitive isn't really, as there's probably a reason the user hasn't upgraded.

I appreciate OcUK holding these little give-away's but not when it is essentially going to benefit someone who doesn't need it.

I'm not even bothered about the competition, I have no intention of entering, I don't care about haswell, it just seems really badly thought out.
 
So,

I know it would not win, but if I could get my FX8350 to 4GHz, say 404 x 10, memory at ~2150MHz and HT Nb at ~3Ghz, would that comply with the competition rules.

cheers, andy.
 
So,

I know it would not win, but if I could get my FX8350 to 4GHz, say 404 x 10, memory at ~2150MHz and HT Nb at ~3Ghz, would that comply with the competition rules.

cheers, andy.

yeah your allowed a max of 4040mhz so any bclk/cpu multi is fine so long as you don't go above that clock of 4ghz-or 4040mhz
 
Haha well I guess I'm happy with that response :) Like I said, I'd like OcUK to get the message that we do appreciate the competitions so that you and I both have the opportunity to win something in the future. I mean who doesn't like prizes?

Edit - This is aimed at acme15 by the way
 
im as baffled as you are,no idea why with faster ram/tighter timings im slower than some with lesser speed ram ect

if anything it should be quicker,higher cpu clocks I can breeze past them but not at 4ghz

It is very odd

My ram can do 2500mhz 9-11-11-25 1T 96 and I am not getting close to the normal SB setups. I have just tried running it @1600mhz 8-8-8-20-1T 88 and that did not make much difference either.

Maybe it is a bit like with graphics cards, at low CPU speeds they get bottlenecked.
 
Yh probably,but if you use the same speed/timings as they are using you should see roughly the same time,but I'm no where near
 
Nice; may well give it a go :D

Since 8 pack as the final say on who wins, he may go for someone whos tweaked the hell out of a older platform.
 
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ive tried eveything:eek:

16gb/8gb of ram = same score
multithreading on/off = same score
various timings/voltages = roughly the same score

im losing 6seconds on the top score so far and that was with a 2500k and standard Kingston memory???:confused:


A 4Ghz IVY with 2133Mhz RAM takes a little over 8 minutes for 32M
Playing around with the base clock gets you a few seconds but < 8 minutes is a hard nut to crach unless you step up to 2400Mhz + on the RAM.

As to the 2500K score, I have a 2500K and will test with some 1866Mhz RAM this evening to confirm.
 
Keen to have a go at this will post my result later hopefully - if not later in the week :)

i5-2500k + some Samsung Green @ 2133MHz on a Z77A-GD65 so hoping for a good result (fingers crossed)
 
UPDATE

Not gonna lie because I would feel awful if I won and took the prize of someone who worked hard at it genuinely made a good attempt

My test was run at 4.4GHz and then downclocked on the fly using MSI control centre to give 4.0GHz so please remove that entry from the leader board

This is the result I got after some genuine tweaking which seems much more in line with other entries so there you have it
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Old entry
Now I wish I got that damn samsung green RAM!
Although i quite honestly dont know what most of these numbers mean...
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Nice one MonsterMoshi.... Great thread ... Just goes to show immature Wazza is at overclocking :D (/jk)

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