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**AMD Fiji Thread**

For everyone saying something negative there's someone else saying something positive. Can't argue against balance surely?
Maybe if everyone stopped saying positive things people would stop saying negative things?



These are the ones AMDMatt listed when AMD released the 8GB 290X:
Battlefield 4 (Mantle)
Dragon Age (Mantle)
Thief (Mantle)
Hitman Absolution (DX)
Crysis 3 (DX)
Shadow Of Mordor (DX)
COD Advanced Warfare (DX)
Watchdogs (DX)
Wolfenstein (DX)

Of course really we also need to run a 4GB 290(X) (or possibly 980) in these to confirm you can recreate the issues AMDMatt had when he produced this list. Saying the Fury X doesn't have issues in these games and therefore HBM solves anything only proves that if a 4GB card does still have issues, otherwise there may have been game patches (or drivers) that helped instead.

Ive got everything on the list expect watchdogs so will run some tests over the weekend on my 4gb r9 290x with 14.20 drivers and see what happens as a benchmark to the fury x when they come out.
 
Are they hiding something ?

It's fairly obvious they are hiding nothing at all. Especially how they feel about some people feeling entitled to have a card for review after taking the ****.


There's an endless list of people happy to make a name for themselves by doing a review.
 
Ive got everything on the list expect watchdogs so will run some tests over the weekend on my 4gb r9 290x with 14.20 drivers and see what happens as a benchmark to the fury x when they come out.

I should point out that those were all at 4K.

The point AMDMatt was making was that (Nvidia's) 4GB cards aren't enough for 4K. So I imagine that's turning everything up to max including AA.
 
Ryan makes some of the most detailed reveiws around and Linus has a huge following on youtube, giving the type of channel. Don't get how you can consider this a good move by AMD, you must really love them!

Ryan is OK, IMO he does honest reviews but is associated with Nvidia a lot.

Linus has a large following of prepubescent kids who game on their mums PC, he's not that relavent.

At a guess the review sites that do the best most honest reviews will get the card to bench, sites like

Bittech
Hexus
Andandtech
Eurogamer/digitalfoundry

And a few more I can't recall.
 
Yeah they wanted them before AMD and even announced them at their own E3 event.

I'm sure Sony and Microsoft do the same thing, sending of brand new products to people like Ryan Shrout equivalent before they even publicly announce them :rolleyes:

I mean really how entitled and unprofessional can you get, these guys crying over twitter. Slating AMD and now still expecting samples.

AMD are doing the right thing, by denying crying whiny men children.

Hi,

This point makes no rational sense. Vendors should base their samples on how much of an audience the reviewer has. The entire concept is in order to promote your products. Not deny reviewers on principle simply because they can.

Both Ryan Shrout and Linus have been very good to NVIDIA. This is the only reason they have been denied samples, and it reflects badly on AMD and nobody else.
 
Yeah but this is not AMD's first card launch. For them to speak out regardless of the circumstances something has changed. So if AMD gave them cards really early in the past and always have done (as they have never spoken out till now) then why change it for this release ? Are they hiding something ?

AMD co hosted the worlds first ever E3 PC event, and chose that stage to launch their new GPU range.

There is no conspiracy here.

Why on earth would they send their new product samples to Ryan Shrout, or Kitguru samples before they did that?

It literally is the most stupid thing in the world for people to get upset about.

Do Sony send out the new products to the Ryan Shrout equivalent or KitGuru equivalent before even announcing their new products?

No ! No they bloody don't.

This is just more anti AMD rhetoric, unsurprisingly from the usual group here. It's getting sad now. It was already boring.

These entitled men children, crying, slating and now sat there expecting samples probably needed a wake up a call.

I think we can all take a lesson from this, don't be a crying whinge baby and expect people not to treat you like one.
 
Solution 1: DP - HDMI2.0 adaptor (available soon, probably before Fury).

Solution 2: Hope one of the custom cards has a HDMI 2.0 port (likeness depends on the demand for HDMI 2.0).

At the end of the day, cards like the Fury are a niche market, 4K60 TVs are a very niche market, connecting your PC to your TV is a niche market, so this is like a niche of a niche, AMD probably decided that catering to the 1% of the 1% wasn't worth it with adaptors on the way.

Problem with both of those solutions is that both of those apply to the 290 series and never materialised. The Bizlink adapter has been "coming soon" for at least 12 months, and GPU vendors never deviated from the baseline connections on the 200 series.

Meanwhile nVidia added HDMI 2.0 to the first cards they released after the standard was finalised, and they even had a pretty good stab at providing the best solution they could for their existing Keplar cards as well.

So even if someone else sorts this problem on AMD's behalf, it's quite ridiculous that I'm still in this situation.
 
Hi,

This point makes no rational sense. Vendors should base their samples on how much of an audience the reviewer has. The entire concept is in order to promote your products. Not deny reviewers on principle simply because they can.

Both Ryan Shrout and Linus have been very good to NVIDIA. This is the only reason they have been denied samples, and it reflects badly on AMD and nobody else.

Also makes no sense. How does a reviewer get an audience with no products to review?

Regardless of that logic - that's just not how it works in the real world. For anything.

This thread is going to need a few more clean ups before the 24th I reckon. Can't believe the review sample line of discussion is even a thing.
 
Is it worth me getting a couple of the Fury X's for 4K? I have seen VRAM mentioned a lot and 4GB is not enough for 1440P or above in some games. You guys seem to be clued up so what do you think please?
 
Also makes no sense. How does a reviewer get an audience with no products to review?

Regardless of that logic - that's just not how it works in the real world. For anything.

This thread is going to need a few more clean ups before the 24th I reckon. Can't believe the review sample line of discussion is even a thing.


Hi,

You misunderstood. I was referring to the purpose of review samples from the vendors perspective. The only reason the thread will need cleaning again is because people are up on the defensive once more unnecessarily.
 
This thread is going to need a few more clean ups before the 24th I reckon. Can't believe the review sample line of discussion is even a thing.

yeh and i dont see the point of typing much if the thread is just going to get deleted again at any time...lol
 
AMD co hosted the worlds first ever E3 PC event, and chose that stage to launch their new GPU range.

There is no conspiracy here.

Why on earth would they send their new product samples to Ryan Shrout, or Kitguru samples before they did that?

It literally is the most stupid thing in the world for people to get upset about.

Do Sony send out the new products to the Ryan Shrout equivalent or KitGuru equivalent before even announcing their new products?

No ! No they bloody don't.

This is just more anti AMD rhetoric, unsurprisingly from the usual group here. It's getting sad now. It was already boring.

These entitled men children, crying, slating and now sat there expecting samples probably needed a wake up a call.

I think we can all take a lesson from this, don't be a crying whinge baby and expect people not to treat you like one.

Agreed! LambChop seeing how much you hate anything amd, won't buy games that have amd partnership. You spend a lot of your time in amd threads.
We get it you hate amd.
 
Also makes no sense. How does a reviewer get an audience with no products to review?

Regardless of that logic - that's just not how it works in the real world. For anything.

This thread is going to need a few more clean ups before the 24th I reckon. Can't believe the review sample line of discussion is even a thing.

That's not even the issue. reviewers were all going to get samples.

These guys wanted samples before AMD had even announced them at E3.

They publicly cried about it and slated AMD, trying to portray it as some kind of tin foil hat conspiracy.

Now AMD have actually had the chance to announce their products they are sending out samples for reviewers. And if AMD have chosen not to send them to people who have publicly slated them and acted like entitled cry babies. Good for them. AMD is doing the right thing. Only other cry babies would think otherwise.
 
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