**AMD Fiji Thread**

[Boomstick777]

boom any chance you can remake this thread after benchmarks or something
i dont mind the topic right now
id like to add to it
i just cant be bothered if its all going to get deleted again! zzzz

I am hoping that Kaapstad will put up an owners thread at launch. With people 'hopefully' being more sensible at that point.

The mods are doing a good job cleaning up this thread as it goes. Let's just see what happens. I think things will calm down after launch.

I know you are saying, be a shame if thread gets deleted or too messed up.

Doing my best to be careful with what I post, I don't want to get suckered in to any baiting. I really like this forum, and most people on here are just interested in new tech and like minded. Hoping the many can / will overcome the few that try to spoil things.

Fingers crossed

 

[spikerules]

http://videocardz.com/56728/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-reviewers-guide

seems like an OK card, nothing amazing

Looks good to me.. are we reading the same article? It's a 980 Ti beater at likely £100 cheaper. In fact going by those results it's close to Titan X performance, is it not?

 

[Nobody Dies]

No card can cope with 4k at max settings.
either out or soon to be out.
Maybe the fury x2 gets there but max settings forget it.
cards tank fps way to fast for any enjoyable gaming experience.
1080p is a struggle for cards still.

You will adjust settings no way around it.

Maybe I misread the E3 show because they said they were running Tomb raider at 4K and Sniper Elite 3 at 5K ultra settings. I was hoping that getting 2 would be enough for all games. Thanks for the info.

 

[TaKeN]

Looks good to me.. are we reading the same article? It's a 980 Ti beater at likely £100 cheaper. In fact going by those results it's close to Titan X performance, is it not?

People need to remember that it isn't in AMDs interest to make a card that completely thrashes the Titan X.

They want to make faster cards in the future, that's why with GPUs we get baby steps from both sides, instead of gigantic leaps.

 

[shankly1985]

Looking so nice! Because of the much smaller form factor you also get to see more of your Motherboard haaa

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH2sJUiWgAQYo9p.jpg

 

[Silent_Scone]

It doesn't matter who they send the samples to for review. The results will all be similar so what's the problem?

It's a non story.

Hi,

It's not meant to be a story. Selecting review sites cannot be commended no matter which way it's cut. AIB partners are waiting on any sort of samples as well, this may be a supply issue. It's worth pointing out however the review sites not selected. If anything, if your product holds up on it's own you should want to get word out more so to the sites that tend to be less agnostic.

 

[flopper]

that's rubbish - I game happily at 4k on max settings ; I do not play twitch kilers or fps , I pay RTS and MMO and they play well already.

so will Fury.
tried witcher 3 btw?

 

[spikerules]

People need to remember that it isn't in AMDs interest to make a card that completely thrashes the Titan X.

They want to make faster cards in the future, that's why with GPUs we get baby steps from both sides, instead of gigantic leaps.

I'm confused if you are aiming this comment at me? I know it isn't a Titan X beater. They want to beat 980 Ti, but what they have is a card on par with the Titan X, which is great!

 

[andybird123]

It doesn't matter who they send the samples to for review. The results will all be similar so what's the problem?

It's a non story.

the problem is that manufacturers send along with review samples "review guides" that tell the reviewers what games and settings to use along with example results, basically telling the reviewers what results they should get and show saying that if they don't get the same results then there is a problem with their review setup

"pro" vendor websites (that want to keep receiving free samples) will tow the line and only post the types of results that the review guides show

you need independent review sites to post other scenarios so that you get a realistic picture and expose what flaws as well as what benefits a particular card gives

that isn't to say that kitguru look pretty silly, but at the same time if AMD are only giving samples to reviewers who agree to follow their review guide then end users might end up getting different results in other games or situations that the ones reviewers use

 

[r22snapper]

Hi,

It's not meant to be a story. Selecting review sites cannot be commended no matter which way it's cut.

I don't commend it but when you are reviewing something subjective like a film or a car or a book I would agree that selection could be a problem, but hardware? Surely it performs how it performs in relation to everything else no matter who tests it?

 

[razorpakk]

That article has been around for a while, as it's a review guide I think it was all tested by AMD themselves.
Have to wait for a better source, oh wait AMD is handpicking the reviewers!
(just kidding of course, but some people will think that way, rightfully so)

 

[NZXT30]

Looks good to me.. are we reading the same article? It's a 980 Ti beater at likely £100 cheaper. In fact going by those results it's close to Titan X performance, is it not?

it's going to be 650 at launch which is 100 more expensive, it will take a long time to get cheaper than the 980ti.

That article is also very biased, they were allowed to post that review because they followed AMD's supplied exact settings and games to test. It wont look this good in normal reviews.

That article has been around for a while, as it's a review guide I think it was all tested by AMD themselves.
Have to wait for a better source, oh wait AMD is handpicking the reviewers!
(just kidding of course, but some people will think that way, rightfully so)

It's only a few hours old... But yeah its clear why they were allowed to post it.

 

[flopper]

Maybe I misread the E3 show because they said they were running Tomb raider at 4K and Sniper Elite 3 at 5K ultra settings. I was hoping that getting 2 would be enough for all games. Thanks for the info.

Really difficult to say, what do you mean by max setting?
I want 120fps at max settings can titanx and 980ti give that with 4k?
No?
Then they cant run it simple as that.
Minfps 60? in every game out there?
Again moot point.

My standard is different and I wouldnt accept 60fps at 4k not even Minfps.
to get there I adjust settings. While some people would think it can run maxed out the fps tanks. try witcher 3.
Ram isnt the priority, fps is.

 

[Silent_Scone]

The other reason partners such as ASUS haven't received anything yet is likely because they have no problems giving samples to whom ever they wish. No matter how you spin it, this process with Fury has been very difficult for industry folk as well as consumers for details.

 

[Mei]

I am hoping that Kaapstad will put up an owners thread at launch. With people 'hopefully' being more sensible at that point.

The mods are doing a good job cleaning up this thread as it goes. Let's just see what happens. I think things will calm down after launch.

I know you are saying, be a shame if thread gets deleted or too messed up.

Doing my best to be careful with what I post, I don't want to get suckered in to any baiting. I really like this forum, and most people on here are just interested in new tech and like minded. Hoping the many can / will overcome the few that try to spoil things.

Fingers crossed

yeh you didnt do anything wrong
it makes sense to me there is a thread like this where everyones fiji "issues" are put together, then after release have a thread with only reviews etc

it just annoys me when the whole lot gets deleted then the same posts are made again in the new thread, maybe some people like repeating themselves over and over i dont lol

 

[bru]

I am reposting this seeing as it to have been missed first time round.

Yes I know that the first chart was discussed and that Whycry made a note of the error on the videocardz article, but the same error is on the main benchmark chart, so something isn't quite right, although I don't know what it is.

Spoiler

It's interesting how the Fury wins every test and then loses every test once both cards are overclocked.

http://videocardz.com/?p=56728

unfortunately there are errors in those charts.

Whycry has said there are errors, and he mentions it in the article.

Overclock Performance Table

WhyCry: This chart has an error, the right column is not 980 Ti, but overclocked Fury X. If you don’t believe check benchmark settings, 980 Ti does not support Mantle.

I also notice another in the main bench chart. I've circled both in red.
Obviously something is slightly amiss, as clearly the 980ti does not support mantle and Whycry reckons it not even suppose to say 980ti in the right hand column of the overclock performance chart. Quite what is up remains to be seen.

 

[Harlequin]

so will Fury.
tried witcher 3 btw?

no , as its not the type of game I enjoy

 

[Nobody Dies]

Really difficult to say, what do you mean by max setting?
I want 120fps at max settings can titanx and 980ti give that with 4k?
No?
Then they cant run it simple as that.
Minfps 60? in every game out there?
Again moot point.

My standard is different and I wouldnt accept 60fps at 4k not even Minfps.
to get there I adjust settings. While some people would think it can run maxed out the fps tanks. try witcher 3.
Ram isnt the priority, fps is.

Max settings being max settings. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. As I have a 60hz monitor I cap the frames to 60Hz as tearing is bad over that and 4K monitors are 60Hz so I would do the same again assuming it will tear over that. This is confusing I know but if I can get 60 fps and roughly hold that without too big of a drop I will be happy.

 

[spikerules]

it's going to be 650 at launch which is 100 more expensive, it will take a long time to get cheaper than the 980ti.

Where did you pull that price from? The US Price of the 980 Ti is going at rrp of $650 with a UK price of £550... so how much is the US retail of the Fury X going to be? If it's $650 then it will be £550? So we were both wrong. It's a 980 Ti beater with the same price point..

 

[andybird123]

I also see that AMD make no mention of installing the actual ultra texture pack for Shadow of Mordor, they just say to use the ultra preset (which is extra shadow and ambient occlusion, not the ultra textures)