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**AMD Fiji Thread**

This is the crux (for me).

And or £549 v £650 (EVGA 980 Ti Hybrid), you're getting newer tech (HBM), better cooling, and a vastly (IMO) better looking card, designed from the ground up to be AIO.

And not getting locked into GSYNC, which adds at least £100 to the cost of the monitor.
 
I know all the other cards are still 28 tsmc, but has anyone confirmed if Fury is made on gf 28shp, as they do have a small gcn 1.3 in carrizo at the moment on gf 28.

edit gcn 1.2 (before boom kicks my butt)
 
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I know all the other cards are still 28 tsmc, but has anyone confirmed if Fury is made on gf 28shp, as they do have a small gcn 1.3 in carrizo at the moment on gf 28.

The Fury is GCN 1.2 built on TSMC 28nm. Those are officially released facts.
 
Is there any downside to AIO cooling? Do the tubes corrode over 5 years or sommat, or are they just as reliable as air cooled solutions?

The only issue seems to be with multi gpu's in some cases, where to mount both rads. From reading the 980ti thread, the hybrid card that evga produce runs an awful lot cooler than the reference design, and indeed better than some non ref cooled cards. Reckon they are a great cooling solution in smaller cases.
 
I really don't see the excitement about DX12 drawcall performance., unless you are an AMD fanboy.

The 980 has twice the DX11 draw call performance of the 290X, is it twice as fast? What is more telling is DX11 has been out a long time and has lots of supported games but the AMD DX11 drivers are not as optimised as Nvidia's. DX12 is not publicly released and has zero supported games released.

These graphs tell you absolutely nothing about DX12 performance at all, unless you are an AMd fanboy and want to ignore all facts.

Bah, Bah, bah, bah.. Draw calls mean something or we wouldn't have devs talk it up, we wouldn't have 3dmark adding it to there benchmark program..

They is a thread on guru3D showing draw call improvements and guess what the ones showing better are the better drivers meaning they show gains in frame rates..

Now, now..
 
I really don't see the excitement about DX12 drawcall performance., unless you are an AMD fanboy.

For a dispassionate "neutral", you seem to use "AMD fanboy" in approximately 50% of your posts, seemingly to turn any discussion nasty. I was hoping you wouldn't turn up to crap in this thread as well, but here you are like the proverbial bad penny.

"I don't hate AMD, but have you SEEN how poor the cooling is on these cards? Only an AMD fanboy would say otherwise. And why didn't they release some benchmarks for me to pick apart and disbelieve? You AMD fanboys should learn from this" etc etc
 
Would have been nicer if they had the spotty plate on the other side too, as thats what you'll see. :p

Everyone does it though.

Tarts up the IMPRESSIVE COOLER then when installed in almost every case ever it's installed cooler down so you're staring at a PCB.

If you have a window anyway.
 
I really don't see the excitement about DX12 drawcall performance., unless you are an AMD fanboy.

The 980 has twice the DX11 draw call performance of the 290X, is it twice as fast? What is more telling is DX11 has been out a long time and has lots of supported games but the AMD DX11 drivers are not as optimised as Nvidia's. DX12 is not publicly released and has zero supported games released.

These graphs tell you absolutely nothing about DX12 performance at all, unless you are an AMd fanboy and want to ignore all facts.

Nvidia has quite a noticeable advantage on DX11 API. Much lower overhead. This should vanish with DX12.
 
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