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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Soldato
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It’s hard to predict because AMD is disrupting the CPU market right now with better value options, they clearly have an appetite for that sort of thing.
When all is said and done what matters is a reliable product that offers a good price/performance at the higher end, it doesn’t need to be cheap or bargain basement it just needs to be good and accessible. Once we are firmly into 4k things will slow down I recon because as much as anything I don’t see consumers rushing out to buy 8k monitors & TVs.
Nvidia want to give that product as slowly as possible and have you pay through the nose at every stage which is good business sense but completely mercenary and exploitative for consumers.
When all is said and done what matters is a reliable product that offers a good price/performance at the higher end, it doesn’t need to be cheap or bargain basement it just needs to be good and accessible. Once we are firmly into 4k things will slow down I recon because as much as anything I don’t see consumers rushing out to buy 8k monitors & TVs.
Nvidia want to give that product as slowly as possible and have you pay through the nose at every stage which is good business sense but completely mercenary and exploitative for consumers.
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Dont you think though with the coming downturn in peoples finances it will be tough for Nvidia/Amd to justify current pricing. Once the Corona virus thing is over a lot of people will have no jobs and therefor no money, who will be buying these expensive Pc components? Remember this will effect them worldwide on sales and I would imagine luxury items such as these will be low priority for most folks.
Probably more people will buy a console OR more people will stick to entry level PC parts and the number of people buying high end parts will reduce.
This will lead to one of two things: Either high end GPU prices will increase to make up lost revenue at the low end or high end prices will decrease to attract more buyers.
A side effect of all of this, there will be less innovation. For instance monitors have been seen a lot of tech advancement in the last 3 years, that's about too dry up real quick because these bleeding edge screens are all priced at the high end. And if there is less reason to buy a new monitor, there will be less reason to buy a GPU upgrade - after all people buy a GPU based on their monitor.
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AMD will disrupt the market again with RDNA2/3 like they've done with Zen, forcing Nvidia to reduce their prices.
Nvidia will sort of do that, but will also try to protect their premium brand image, to the detriment of market share lost to AMD.
AMD will bring out 2080Ti performance for £700 in 2020.
That's my prediction.
Nvidia will sort of do that, but will also try to protect their premium brand image, to the detriment of market share lost to AMD.
AMD will bring out 2080Ti performance for £700 in 2020.
That's my prediction.
Another disappointment from them then. Needs to be no more than £500 imo.
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I guess it's always good to be planted in reality, but 2080ti performance for 700 quid... Is that really the hopes/wishes for the PC gaming market?
"Hey, here's the performance of a 2 year old card. Yours for only £700."
"Hey, here's the performance of a 2 year old card. Yours for only £700."
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I wasn't referring to the top of the range big Navi as I expect that to be way more than £700.
I guess it's always good to be planted in reality, but 2080ti performance for 700 quid... Is that really the hopes/wishes for the PC gaming market?
"Hey, here's the performance of a 2 year old card. Yours for only £700."
Not hopes nor wishes. Expectations. Obviously everyone hopes for 2080Ti performance for £200.
I know right. Sad.I guess it's always good to be planted in reality, but 2080ti performance for 700 quid... Is that really the hopes/wishes for the PC gaming market?
"Hey, here's the performance of a 2 year old card. Yours for only £700."
In my opinion they need to be bringing that performance level to £400 and then we can all say well done AMD! Just like we all have done with their CPU's.
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I just don't see it as much disruption tbh. A £700 GPU offering 2 year old performance, would be bordering on laughable.
The disruption would be lost sales, as people died of disinterest.
The 2080TI should have cost £700-£800 tops. Instead Nvidia tried it on and enough people bit to let them carry on taking the p$$. I wouldn't buy 2080ti performance for £700 now, yes a year or two ago but that ship has sailed.
I'll wait it out and I've bought SLI Titan Xps in my time so I'm not averse to spending on performance. £500 is the maximum anyone should expect to pay for that performance from next generation cards unless the buyer is so brainwashed
by Jensen that they 'just buy it'. If people want to bend over that's up to them but I'm keeping by buttocks firmly clenched.
I'll wait it out and I've bought SLI Titan Xps in my time so I'm not averse to spending on performance. £500 is the maximum anyone should expect to pay for that performance from next generation cards unless the buyer is so brainwashed
by Jensen that they 'just buy it'. If people want to bend over that's up to them but I'm keeping by buttocks firmly clenched.
Has happened many many times in the past, don’t see why not again if their architecture is any good.
+1
Let’s hope Jensen finds a way in through the crack
3070 with 2080Ti performance or there about’s, plus better RT performance for around £450 should do it.
Pretty much what I am expecting. However i do think nVidia will be around 50 quid more expensive on average so 550 or there about.
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Wouldn't be that much of a achievement since the 2080ti will be 2 years old in a couple of months.
Remember the days when the mid rang gpu of a new architecture was as fast as the high end on the previous generation ?
I really don't want to get involved too much with debates like this, i fell for the RX 480 = 980TI hype, tho today its not a million miles away from that.....
Look, an 80 CU is 2X a 5700XT (5120 Shaders) a 2080TI is 40% faster than a 5700XT, even with RDNA1 a 5120 shader GPU would be significantly faster than a 2080TI..
Here is what we know from the new XBox, its running 52 CU's (3328 Shaders) and its 'at least' as fast as an RTX 2080, RTX 2080 vs 2080TI according to TPU here is 142% vs 176%, a performance difference of 22%, if we go off that a 64 CU RDNA2 GPU is +25% vs 52 CU's, an 80 CU +55%.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-5600-xt-phantom-gaming-d3/27.html
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