Yeah I’ve come to that conclusion now. Should’ve done earlier really as he was the same in the F1 threads which he seems to never post in anymore...
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Yeah I’ve come to that conclusion now. Should’ve done earlier really as he was the same in the F1 threads which he seems to never post in anymore...
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Love this
I really don't understand you guys, if you keep feeding him he'll keep coming back! Starve him of the obvious attention he craves and he'll starve, end of troll. Just don't reply or quote the rubbish he spouts!
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Love this
I really don't understand you guys, if you keep feeding him he'll keep coming back! Starve him of the obvious attention he craves and he'll starve, end of troll. Just don't reply or quote the rubbish he spouts!
I do wish he could just be removed from the thread, I just stopped responding.
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The finances speak for themselves - AMD also participates in the graphics, console business and yet it's revenue is below 10% of Intel's:
https://d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.ne...eports_Second_Quarter_2020_Financial_1402.pdf
https://d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.ne...Reports_Second_Quarter_2020_Financial_963.pdf
These numbers are what really matters - includes servers and OEMs.
AMD is like the Huawei of the PC market, while Intel and Nvidia are like the Teslas, Mercedeses and Audis of the PC market.
AMD are not as big as Intel, yeah so what? Using your measure Fiat cars are better than Jaguar cars.
Everyone but you agrees AMD's CPU's are better than Intel's which is why 9 out of 10 choosing their own CPU's buy AMD.
They are better but not good enough to move the industry overall to them.
People are not stupid and always try to get more for their money.
If AMD's CPUs were indeed better for the large corporations whose only goal is to make more money, which means to reduce the costs, they would have all gone to AMD. But they didn't.
This is what I am saying but here the paid shills and trolls argue - if your offer is not good enough - make it better. This is AMD's task now.
Soldato
That's just simple mindshare working and the contracts signed. If a company has got an agreement to order intel parts for 3 years, they are tied in.
Think you’re forgetting that most business only refresh their hardware every 3 years or so.
I would be very surprised not to see a greater uptake of AMD products over the next couple of years. Intel will have to pull it out of the bag to avoid it at this rate IMO.
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Lol this thread..
I should go troll on CPU forum out of politeness
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I should go troll on CPU forum out of politeness
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My boss at work threw up a last minute server rack as we needed to move some apps and storage quickly. I had to block out the part where he was impressed with Xeon and the intel parts, he is genuinely stuck in the past thinking I was going to be amazed with what he was coming out with lol.
Ryzen 5000 series is simply, amazing engineering feat
Its not how it works dude.
Wish people have an idea what they write about but they as in your case dont.
Better isn't how it works, Intel bribes people you know vacation, add some ladies sucking them off and you know what else. Its a common practice when you sell for billions of dollars.
servers have a longer cycle to change, years in fact and are on long term contracts so again better does not apply. Intel and nvidia is trying to shut other companies out.
AMD crushed Intel and nvidia in a singel month while having a research budget not even reaching any of those companies yet with spending. The engineering team at amd is doing miracles and its why I support them with cpu and gpu as I dont buy shady companies products like Intel nor Nvidia.
Buy amd and you be happy supporting a real company with the best products also, cant go wrong with amd.
Anyhow, only a few days now to go for the Nvidia Killer to be unleashed the Big Dog Navis
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AMD will keep growing, they have taken market share from Intel over they last few years and that will continue, these things don't happen overnight.
You should have looked at him blankly and said "AMD are better"
You should have looked at him blankly and said "AMD are better"
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Or asked "Is 10gb is enough Vram?" hahaYou should have looked at him blankly and said "AMD are better"
Did that ages ago though just seen how many ignored post I have from him, jesus guy needs a life!
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I just watched MLID's latest video and his theory/prediction is that Nvidia have cancelled the higher VRAM capacity 30X0 range and will revise the stack with better price/performance models. How ****** off would people who bought 3080 or 3090 be, if the 3090 was cut down to 12GB VRAM and given a significant price drop as a reaction to AMDs big Navi putting the pressure on?
Most people can see Nvidia really have messed this release up as it has clearly been rushed, with technical/driver issues, poor availability (barely more than a paper launch) and prices that will most likely have to be revised down.
If AMD launch 6800XT at $600 with ~3080 performance in rasterisation and 16GB VRAM then that would make the 3070/3080 and even the 3090 a very hard sell for most people. In essence this would be a GPU that has more than ample VRAM and rasterisation performance for 4K. Some will of course proclaim "but DLSS and RT" but the truth is most will look at rasterisation performance because history has shown that Turing was a bust for most who already had a 1080Ti. So clearly most felt these key features weren't worth the massive price increase for such marginal performance gains.
It is clear that many people are ****** at Nvidia because of their arrogance and how they are treating them. You would imagine that even Nvidia's much vaunted mindshare cannot survive that kind of crap and I hope it helps Nvidia realise they can't be so ******* condescending in future. Though I doubt it to be honest. More likely in a few months if/when Nvidia release the 12GB VRAM 3090 at cut down prices as a 3080Ti, the Nvidia fans will be all "wow Nvidia you are awesome, we never doubted you for a second". Look everyone a 3090 for only $1000, Nvidia always think of their customers.
Queue Rorff to respond with a jump through hoops in defence of Nvidia post in 3... 2... 1...
Most people can see Nvidia really have messed this release up as it has clearly been rushed, with technical/driver issues, poor availability (barely more than a paper launch) and prices that will most likely have to be revised down.
If AMD launch 6800XT at $600 with ~3080 performance in rasterisation and 16GB VRAM then that would make the 3070/3080 and even the 3090 a very hard sell for most people. In essence this would be a GPU that has more than ample VRAM and rasterisation performance for 4K. Some will of course proclaim "but DLSS and RT" but the truth is most will look at rasterisation performance because history has shown that Turing was a bust for most who already had a 1080Ti. So clearly most felt these key features weren't worth the massive price increase for such marginal performance gains.
It is clear that many people are ****** at Nvidia because of their arrogance and how they are treating them. You would imagine that even Nvidia's much vaunted mindshare cannot survive that kind of crap and I hope it helps Nvidia realise they can't be so ******* condescending in future. Though I doubt it to be honest. More likely in a few months if/when Nvidia release the 12GB VRAM 3090 at cut down prices as a 3080Ti, the Nvidia fans will be all "wow Nvidia you are awesome, we never doubted you for a second". Look everyone a 3090 for only $1000, Nvidia always think of their customers.
Queue Rorff to respond with a jump through hoops in defence of Nvidia post in 3... 2... 1...
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16 GB vram is going to be a YUGE selling point, for more knowledgable buyers and the less informed alike. Nvidia is going to have to do something special to counteract that! Their only saving grace might be that the demand is so big that it doesn't even matter, sorta like what happened with Intel & AMD in the recent years. Even though Intel's been getting spanked by AMD the limited supply in the desktop space meant it didn't matter that much because they wouldn't have been able to pump out more in the first place in order to then try and wage a price war and compete on volume. Likely we'll see that story play out again.
Companies don't just roll on down to their local computer store and order a boat load of new server CPUs so they can upgrade during the weekend. Upgrades are only when they are planned to be. The cycles are for years. What's important is that AMD has been steadily growing in the server market. What you have neglected to mention is their rapid growth in laptop market where Intel used to totally dominate. And this trend will continue. AMD laptops are offering performance previously not dream'd of, with far superior energy efficiency
He was apparently told about inventory and upscaling tech too
Soldato
Neurotic? Hardly. Just because I don't filter my language between brain and keyboard doesn't make me neurotic. What does make me neurotic is how quickly my blood pressure rises reading some of the utterly insane, clueless, truly moronic tripe that gets posted here. Faboyism, blinkered idiocy, blatant yet unironic hypocrisy.
Lllllllaaaaaaadddddddddiiiiiiieeeessss and gentlemennnnnnn, my name's Paul and in this video we're going to be talking about information that has popped up in the last 24 to 48 hours l, and golllllllllly gosssssshhhhh......
Soldato
Don't personally see the problem, I listen to it and take everything said with a pinch of salt as I do with all of them. No problems with them here.
Quite a few people I know who work in shipping are now working from home and the companies supplied laptops for them. I can see this becoming a permanent thing also, as less overheads means more revenue.
Sorry off topic!
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