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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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I will tell you one thing - there is a reason why the IT departments globally don't want to use AMD.
In this case, Intel is right - AMD's support is weak.

And why is that historically? Intel's business practices might have an answer for you.

And what IT departments want is only a small piece of the puzzle. What options they have available to them and why that is the case is a more important factor...
 
If these cards really are the business anyone with a g-sync monitor going to get one? Would be the only thing holding me back back an all red new build.
 
What I can't understand is... why? Why is there such low stock unavailability? Its not a simple demand issue as Gibbo said its very high demand plus very low stock availability and Nvidia themselves said there will be shortages until 2021 so whats going on, is it simply that the production lines aren't up to speed yet or are they at low capacity due to the virus (if reports from China are to be believed they've got that under control) so it must be something else if so, what? Was it a jump the queue paper launch that Nvidia knew couldn't be fulfilled? The total lack of information doesn't help Nvidia are being very tight lipped.

The article states "a majority of users are now even considering switching to AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series" uh huh, thats assuming they don't have the same issues as well.

Low stock availability is often by design. Think about it: if you immediately flood the market with enough units to satisfy, say, 80% of the demand, people will be a lot more casual about their purchasing behaviour. The street price will be much lower than if there was a shortage, because consumers will have time to shop around and pick the best/cheapest option for their budget. In this situation, if any supplier attempts to mark up their products, consumers will simply look elsewhere because availability is plentiful.

Now let's consider a situation where product manufacturers/suppliers artificially limit availability for strategic purposes. They drip-feed extremely small amounts of product into the market over time which consumers will happily buy at well over the quoted price without even questioning their decision, because the product is so rare that it justifies a significant mark up. Those consumers are under the impression that the supplier is having difficulty making enough product and this false perception allows the supplier to maintain their reputation as the majority of buyers won't be aware of the unethical pricing strategies unfolding behind the scenes.

I see so many people making the mistake of thinking companies like Nvidia aren't able to meet demand. They are a multibillion dollar corporation that operates on a mind-boggling scale. They deal in tens of billions of dollars and if they wanted to, Nvidia could have absolutely shipped half a million cards within the space of 6 weeks (it's not as if Ampere was conceived, developed and manufactured in a month). With enough money and a tiny bit of forward planning, they could have made that happen with ease, but why would they diminish their margins by satisfying the demand when they can limit the supply, charge a lot more and still maintain brand loyalty? The 3000 series is guaranteed to sell out at higher-than-MSRP prices even if it takes 4 months for the supply to begin to meet demand - and this is irrespective of the performance and supply of upcoming AMD cards.
 
If these cards really are the business anyone with a g-sync monitor going to get one? Would be the only thing holding me back back an all red new build.

Unknown at this point. I'm loathe to switch monitor as this one has been excellent for over 4.5 years, and g-sync has worked superbly for me. On the other hand I'm not going to buy an inferior product just for G-sync support (and I mean in terms of price/performance at the level I'm looking at).

I would love an all red system for the first time since 2005 but as my 8700K at 4.8GHz is more than enough for all games I play it's unlikely to happen soon.
 
Low stock availability is often by design. Think about it: if you immediately flood the market with enough units to satisfy, say, 80% of the demand, people will be a lot more casual about their purchasing behaviour. The street price will be much lower than if there was a shortage, because consumers will have time to shop around and pick the best/cheapest option for their budget. In this situation, if any supplier attempts to mark up their products, consumers will simply look elsewhere because availability is plentiful.

Now let's consider a situation where product manufacturers/suppliers artificially limit availability for strategic purposes. They drip-feed extremely small amounts of product into the market over time which consumers will happily buy at well over the quoted price without even questioning their decision, because the product is so rare that it justifies a significant mark up. Those consumers are under the impression that the supplier is having difficulty making enough product and this false perception allows the supplier to maintain their reputation as the majority of buyers won't be aware of the unethical pricing strategies unfolding behind the scenes.

I see so many people making the mistake of thinking companies like Nvidia aren't able to meet demand. They are a multibillion dollar corporation that operates on a mind-boggling scale. They deal in tens of billions of dollars and if they wanted to, Nvidia could have absolutely shipped half a million cards within the space of 6 weeks (it's not as if Ampere was conceived, developed and manufactured in a month). With enough money and a tiny bit of forward planning, they could have made that happen with ease, but why would they diminish their margins by satisfying the demand when they can limit the supply, charge a lot more and still maintain brand loyalty? The 3000 series is guaranteed to sell out at higher-than-MSRP prices even if it takes 4 months for the supply to begin to meet demand - and this is irrespective of the performance and supply of upcoming AMD cards.

Yes of course, this was all part of Nvidias masterplan; to purposefully not have stock to even satisy 10% of its consumers and to take significant reputational damage in the process by angering both consumers and AIB's. As we all know... not selling lots of expensive graphics cards leads to huge profits... especially if you allow your main rival to release their competitive GPU's in greater volume to a baying mob of eager buyers before you can ship yours to the people who have already been waiting 1-2 months!

It's exactly the kind of cunning plan that Baldrick from Blackadder would be proud of.
 
Yes of course, this was all part of Nvidias masterplan; to purposefully not have stock to even satisy 10% of its consumers and to take significant reputational damage in the process by angering both consumers and AIB's. As we all know... not selling lots of expensive graphics cards leads to huge profits... especially if you allow your main rival to release their competitive GPU's in greater volume to a baying mob of eager buyers before you can ship yours to the people who have already been waiting 1-2 months!

It's exactly the kind of cunning plan that Baldrick from Blackadder would be proud of.

You forgot the /s. Just in case he didn’t get it. :D
 
Yes of course, this was all part of Nvidias masterplan; to purposefully not have stock to even satisy 10% of its consumers and to take significant reputational damage in the process by angering both consumers and AIB's. As we all know... not selling lots of expensive graphics cards leads to huge profits... especially if you allow your main rival to release their competitive GPU's in greater volume to a baying mob of eager buyers before you can ship yours to the people who have already been waiting 1-2 months!

It's exactly the kind of cunning plan that Baldrick from Blackadder would be proud of.
Haha...


Unless I missed it I did not hear jacket man say "buy more and save..." it appears that he knew that he didn't have enough supply.
:D
 
Watching MLIDs video and honestly all I'm seeing and hearing is him guessing. For each piece of information he uses throws in words like "should", at least, my perspective, i believe. Then suggests things like 6800xt is 72 to 80cus and runs a clock of 2.15 to 2.3. talk about heading your bets. He also suggests that the top card, 6900xt will more energy than the 6800xt. Mind blown. I put this guy in the same basket as coreteks, who just guesses too.
 
Watching MLIDs video and honestly all I'm seeing and hearing is him guessing. For each piece of information he uses throws in words like "should", at least, my perspective, i believe. Then suggests things like 6800xt is 72 to 80cus and runs a clock of 2.15 to 2.3. talk about heading your bets. He also suggests that the top card, 6900xt will more energy than the 6800xt. Mind blown. I put this guy in the same basket as coreteks, who just guesses too.
Ahhh don't forget though he has his "sources".... I've removed my subscription from him as I learn more on my own than from him tbh... and the last video was all about "look how clever my guess was" lol
 
For each piece of information he uses throws in words like "should"
So you'd prefer him to pinky swear everything he says is the truth? The guy is reporting on leaks and information that he has been given, at no point does he claim it's the truth and even clearly states when he's speculating. "Should" is very much a required caveat when your information comes from sources who, in turn, could be led astray themselves.
 
Some of you place to much emphasis on worshipping a person. Then get mad when they don't walk on water.

Am I the only one in this group of posts that simply want some "insight" on RDNA 2?? With the understanding that i need to apply a pinch of salt? I could care less who it comes from. As long as I don't get the impression they are trolling.
 
So you'd prefer him to pinky swear everything he says is the truth? The guy is reporting on leaks and information that he has been given, at no point does he claim it's the truth and even clearly states when he's speculating. "Should" is very much a required caveat when your information comes from sources who, in turn, could be led astray themselves.

Not with someone who has first hand knowledge. If i work at company X and I have information about product Z, i say product Z performs like this, in these, scenarios, with these conditions. If I have to caveat my information with "should", it's because i heard some guy talking in the cafeteria and should probably keep my mouth shut
 
...and the last video was all about "look how clever my guess was" lol
That's really not what he said. I'm not rushing to Tom's defence, but since his channel started he's been beset with the usual "but you just make things up" accusations and people crying when information he 100% presented and clarified as rumour and speculation was taken as gospel truth and then somehow was used as ammunition to discredit him when things didn't pan out.

He's never claimed anything as fact and when his information is bad he freely says so. But so far, what exactly has he been wrong about? Big Navi is shaping up exactly how his sources have stated for months, the only thing truly wrong with his Ampere info was RT performance, of which he's said he was genuinely stunned about, Zen 3 is pretty much as he's reported on as well as all of the APUs.
 
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