It's crazy how few leaks (benchmarks etc) there are with the cards only 2 days away from launch...
Seemed to have had far more benchies than the NVIDIA one, how accurate they are is another mattter
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Seemed to have had far more benchies than the NVIDIA one, how accurate they are is another mattter
It's crazy how few leaks (benchmarks etc) there are with the cards only 2 days away from launch...
Maybe virus measures have got in the way of the misbehaviour that is behind leaks.
Caporegime
2 days to go.
Soldato
Reading some of these post suggest they reached acceptance.
There's lots of factors at play here. But I want to impress a couple of things: 1) even though this is an enthusiast forum - with smarter folk or access to research and tap into people working in the IT fields etc. - there is still a huge undercurrent of people that will not deviate from the nvidia mindshare. Just look through this thread alone at the volume of pro-nvidia stances and the defensive interjections leads me to conclude that the "AMD have to be better and cheaper and.." philosophy to be the likely case here.
2) Of course its possible that AMD can charge the same or more if in some cases it beats the equivalent card i.e. 6800XT > 3080. However the only thing making this possible is the lack of nvidia cards to get hold of, and the short supply globally if AMD have not made enough. Due to the mindshare, features like DLSS, RTX, noise cancelling etc. I think it would be quite risky for AMD to charge the same pricing. The last danger is affecting both the brands here and that is mining/science projects buying up bulk stock which makes all GPU's harder to get.
Soldato
This is the thing, even with the $50 price bump on Zen 3, AMD are doing exactly that to Intel in every CPU market. Yet AMD had the chance to start that ball rolling on Nvidia with the Radeon VII, and certainly the 5700 XT, but just didn't. There's zero chance they'll do it this year when they are going to be competitive across the entire product stack. It's almost as if RTG is acting like a separate entity and oblivious to AMD's year-on-year CPU wins.
It took the 4th generation of Zen to trounce Intel in every conceivable metric, and therefore took the 4th generation of Zen before AMD could (mostly) justify a premium price point. Even if the best-case scenario comes to light and Big Ass Tip Top Doggy Daddy Navi destroys Ampere, it is too soon to charge the premium position, it just won't win anybody over and won't capture market share.
This is how AMD will miss the open goal Nvidia have left them.
I do prefer AMD for some reason. (My self built machines have always been AMD and i've never built an Intel system... Had Intel laptops though.) But my current GPU is a 1080 because at the time i went to buy it was kind of my only option and AMD didn't have anything at the max of the budget i was spending. So Nvidia wise i have no problem buying them if everything works out. Intel on the other hand, i find them a bit ***** with regards to some of their business practices, the milking when they had no competition and their fetish for new motherboards every 10 minutes.
Sums up the smart money bob on and how I feel too.
People seem so hung up on RT and DLSS but I haven't used either on my 20 series card yet and RT is still too big a hit this gen for me to believe it's worth it.
I mostly run a Valve Index and 1440p @165hz Monitor so if the AMD comes in rasterization 20% more than the 3080 the AMD card's are just better for what I want.
Lastly AMD cards i'm sure will be priced well, so the money saved from not buying a 3080 plonked into a 5000 series CPU the uplift from the CPU and the GPU for the same money as a £900 30 series just seems the smart play for me.
The only features I would miss from Nvidia are the Nvec and the upcoming Nvidia studio, as a streamer these are great, but the 5000 CPU can stream great (My 3800X does) and I bet you if the AMD cards get adopted by the masses again more stuff comes out similarly.
Either way it's a good time to be a consumer, almost as good a time as being a distributor
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I know you are the driver. but who decide's on the route?. I hope Leicester is on it.
Yup, patiently waiting and think I'm going big this time.
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I think the cards will come out quite soon after the reveal on Wednesday.
Caporegime
Arriving at platform 9000 momentarily.
Soldato
Sure its not platform 6000?
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From what we have seen so far in leaks about the 6800XT and 6900XT it seems AMD have come out to fight this round. over all they will be equal to nvidia. some they will lose some they will win.
3090 card Expensive. 24g GDR DLSS and RT king. but not raw performance king outside of DLSS and RT. £1400 if your lucky and many above that price buys you the RT DLSS king.
6900XT card. 16g GDR but could be raw performance king. better at RT than 2080ti. price is where AMD could damage Nvidia if they can bring it in for £800 to £900 saving £500 over the 3090 could be key.
3080 card average price £750 better at RT and DLSS but 10g GDR but cant compete with the 6900XT raw speed.
6800XT card 16g GDR better RT than 2080ti no DLSS but in raw speed faster than 3080 price again is where its at for AMD £600 to see an average £150 saving, would like to see it at £550 maybe.
nvidia to respond as they always do.
will we see a 3080Ti to take the lead back from the 6800XT across the board, and will the Titan follow the 3090 to again take the lead back from the 6900XT across the board only time will tell.
One thing is for sure, i expect nvidia to respond with some thing in a few months time. but AMD have the ball with price, lets hope they dont drop it.
2 days to go, speculation will be over!
3090 card Expensive. 24g GDR DLSS and RT king. but not raw performance king outside of DLSS and RT. £1400 if your lucky and many above that price buys you the RT DLSS king.
6900XT card. 16g GDR but could be raw performance king. better at RT than 2080ti. price is where AMD could damage Nvidia if they can bring it in for £800 to £900 saving £500 over the 3090 could be key.
3080 card average price £750 better at RT and DLSS but 10g GDR but cant compete with the 6900XT raw speed.
6800XT card 16g GDR better RT than 2080ti no DLSS but in raw speed faster than 3080 price again is where its at for AMD £600 to see an average £150 saving, would like to see it at £550 maybe.
nvidia to respond as they always do.
will we see a 3080Ti to take the lead back from the 6800XT across the board, and will the Titan follow the 3090 to again take the lead back from the 6900XT across the board only time will tell.
One thing is for sure, i expect nvidia to respond with some thing in a few months time. but AMD have the ball with price, lets hope they dont drop it.
2 days to go, speculation will be over!
Caporegime
Post of the day this, glorious stuff.
Caporegime
The guy has 1 post, he probably found it googling his problem, he just wants some advice. 
Caporegime
@THG3 post your question in the thread you linked, this is the wrong thread for that, @varkanoid will stand a much better chance of seeing it if its in that thread.
Soldato
Sent you a PM.
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