AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

[drunkenmaster]

RX 480 8GB is what most gamers buying from retailers for upgrades will want. RX 480 4GB is more about the card fitting in $100 lower model dell computers, $40 less gpu, $30 cheaper CPU, $30 less on psu, case, mobo.

RX470/RX460 are going to be heavily aimed and pushed into OEM machines. Back to school isn't about an upgrading season but selling complete systems which accounts for 98% of discrete gpu sales. Would you send an extra 100k RX460 to Apple and Acer to sell in back to school systems or to retailers to sit on shelves as most people opt for an RX 480 8GB.

Not opting for the 8GB would be a mistake for most people, more because of the sentiment against 4GB cards, that $40 extra isn't extortionate but will pay itself back when you sell the card in anything from 1-4 years.

It's already been suggested the RX480 is mostly going to be 8GB models, with very few 4GB ones available.

 

[meldarthx]

I have 4 gigs and with running VSR at times I do run out of memory so upgrade to 8 gigs for my main system will be awesome......

470 4 gig for my secondary system will work perfectly....and can move 7870 LE to apu system

 

[Orcvader]

From AMD's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AMD/status/746024194551349248

https://www.amd4u.com/amdgamepromo/

Click check eligibility and...

Is that the rest of the 400 series line up I see? And 490?

 

[Steampunk]

From AMD's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AMD/status/746024194551349248

https://www.amd4u.com/amdgamepromo/

Click check eligibility and...

Is that the rest of the 400 series line up I see? And 490?

Either it's a long term promotion, or the AMD misinformation campaign is a double-blind. They've not been hiding the 480 performance, they've been hiding that the 490/Vega is a lot closer than we think.

It doesn't seem likely, it's too clever and too much like a movie storyline, but it would be hilarious if everyone was blindsided and Vega arrived in a month or two.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

AMD Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 Official Gaming Performance Revealed – Polaris 11 To Achieve 1080p / 60 FPS in eSports and MOBA Titles

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-470-460-official-performance/

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Spoiler

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=453340&postcount=8

HWBot forum user Elmor had fun with LN2 to see how high can RX 480 overclocked at maximum with FireStrike. RX 480 managed to reached 1.7GHz at 1.5V achieved 15,577 GPU score struggled to reached 16,349 GPU Fury X level and impossible to reached 17,042 GPU GTX 980 Ti level at stock clock.

http://videocardz.com/59871/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-firestrike-and-3dmark11-performance

Polaris never reached Fury X performance while on LN2. Not very impressed with GlobalFoundries 14nm, it is a massive failure for RTG.

You all can forget about put it on watercool and try to overclock it to 1.7GHz. No chance for overclocker dream to reach GTX 1070 level.

 

[Harlequin]

Spoiler

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=453340&postcount=8

HWBot forum user Elmor had fun with LN2 to see how high can RX 480 overclocked at maximum with FireStrike. RX 480 managed to reached 1.7GHz at 1.5V achieved 15,577 GPU score struggled to reached 16,349 GPU Fury X level and impossible to reached 17,042 GPU GTX 980 Ti level at stock clock.

http://videocardz.com/59871/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-firestrike-and-3dmark11-performance

Polaris never reached Fury X performance while on LN2. Not very impressed with GlobalFoundries 14nm, it is a massive failure for RTG.

You all can forget about put it on watercool and try to overclock it to 1.7GHz. No chance for overclocker dream to reach GTX 1070 level.

can you point me at the £180 NVIDIA gpu can do that please.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

What do people honestly expect of a cheap card with 32 ROPS and small memory interface? Depending on 1060 price/performance it could prove a mistake but until then it does bloody well for a card in it's price range, and I expect 1060 to cost appreciably more.

 

[r22snapper]

Spoiler

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=453340&postcount=8

HWBot forum user Elmor had fun with LN2 to see how high can RX 480 overclocked at maximum with FireStrike. RX 480 managed to reached 1.7GHz at 1.5V achieved 15,577 GPU score struggled to reached 16,349 GPU Fury X level and impossible to reached 17,042 GPU GTX 980 Ti level at stock clock.

http://videocardz.com/59871/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-firestrike-and-3dmark11-performance

Polaris never reached Fury X performance while on LN2. Not very impressed with GlobalFoundries 14nm, it is a massive failure for RTG.

You all can forget about put it on watercool and try to overclock it to 1.7GHz. No chance for overclocker dream to reach GTX 1070 level.

That's a shame, I was planning to buy a £200 GPU and a load of LN2 to save money on a 1070

 

[D.P.]

can you point me at the £180 NVIDIA gpu can do that please.

Ehh, the 480 costs £230-£250.

the 970 starts at £200 and the 980 can be had for £275.
The 970 hits 14600 and the 980 can hit 21500

 

[Harlequin]

Ehh, the 480 costs £230-£250.

the 970 starts at £200 and the 980 can be had for £275.
The 970 hits 14600 and the 980 can hit 21500

erm only on ocuk - you can buy them for 180 elsewhere

edit

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/68...80-4gb-strix-oc-video-card-review/index4.html

hmmm that's weird , tweaktown gets 11919 for a strix , that's quite a lot short of 21500

 

[Poneros]

Not to mention how abysmal Maxwell performance is in DX12 & Vulkan. Buying a new one now? Yikes!

 

[Aretak]

Ehh, the 480 costs £230-£250.

You can order a 4GB model for under £175 right now.

the 980 can hit 21500

No it can't. A 980 at 2.2GHz under LN2 achieved 19,811 in Fire Strike.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/enthusiast-overclocks-geforce-gtx-980-to-2-20ghz-sets-worlds-record/

 

[N19h7m4r3]

You can order a 4GB model for under £175 right now.


No it can't. A 980 at 2.2GHz under LN2 achieved 19,811 in Fire Strike.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/enthusiast-overclocks-geforce-gtx-980-to-2-20ghz-sets-worlds-record/

He could be talking about the world record on the GTX 980.
Which hit 21534 with an i7 5960X clocked at 5.8152Ghz

http://hwbot.org/submission/2766648_steponz_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_980_21534_marks

The 1.7Ghz RX 480's 6950X was only clocked in at 3.5Ghz; that's 2.3Ghz slower than the GTX 980 World record holder's CPU. Kinda makes a difference in overall score.

 

[Lokken86]

That's a shame, I was planning to buy a £200 GPU and a load of LN2 to save money on a 1070

Lol. Took the words out of my mouth.

 

[Orangey]

What do people honestly expect of a cheap card with 32 ROPS and small memory interface? Depending on 1060 price/performance it could prove a mistake but until then it does bloody well for a card in it's price range

Uh you can get a faster card for the same or less.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-166-gi.html

Why can't people just admit it didn't hit the mark? If they get another try they might do better, who knows. Until then it's getting a bit much coming here and reading how the 480 is dominating every day.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Uh you can get a faster card for the same or less.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-166-gi.html

Why can't people just admit it didn't hit the mark? If they get another try they might do better, who knows. Until then it's getting a bit much coming here and reading how the 480 is dominating every day.

To be fair, the 390 8GB was really a bargain of a card, especially when comparing to the 970 with the butchered memory interface and bus and 3.5GB+500MB of vram.

If it was the case of 1060 vs 970 with the same performance difference, sensible people would still have to buy 1060 over 970, because they know moving forward EOL card such as 970 has no future and will not perform to max potential due to no longer being optimised for new releases and lack of vram.

So whilst I do understand where your disappointment is coming form, I think we should be glad that our good old 290 series up to the 390 series performance still increase over time, unlike Nvidia cards performance where the only way to go is down (after EOL).

The 290 series is probably the modern day equivalent of the 8800 GTX series...much like the 5850/5870 back in 2009.

(Also it's worth bearing in mind that Gibbo did mention that older EOL cards which they can secure better deals and most 390/970 cards that are still around are bought and paid for before the pound value plummeted to hell, whereas new cards they would have to pay for at current poor exchange rate, due to stocks are bought on credit which are affected strongly by the pound/dollar exchange rate. If the exchange rate was still at £1:$1.5, the RX480 at $240 would have only been around £190 even after adding the 20% vat).

 

[drunkenmaster]

Uh you can get a faster card for the same or less.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-166-gi.html

Why can't people just admit it didn't hit the mark? If they get another try they might do better, who knows. Until then it's getting a bit much coming here and reading how the 480 is dominating every day.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-06g-p4-4996-kr-gx-292-ea.html


why can't you just admit the 1070/1080 suck because this card obviously makes those very poor in comparison. This 980ti is faster than a 1070 and overclocked to it's max, faster than a 1080, yet cheaper than the former and pretty much half the price of the latter.... so it must suck right?


Oh wait people not trolling know that the last gen under price cuts has always been competitive with the new gen, so bringing up cards price cut to shift stocks as an argument is something only someone without a solid argument would do.

When almost every other card in the past decade launched, there was something being price cut from the previous gen that made it an incredibly good purchase. Every single new generation you get GIbbo making a thread about epic pricing of the last gen and every single time you get thread after thread talking about how big price cuts are making it hard to choose between new gen and the last few cards available of the old gen.

 

[Toss3]

Uh you can get a faster card for the same or less.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-166-gi.html

Why can't people just admit it didn't hit the mark? If they get another try they might do better, who knows. Until then it's getting a bit much coming here and reading how the 480 is dominating every day.

What mark? It sits right between the GTX 970 and GTX 980, and does better in dx12/Vulcan. Pretty awesome perf/$.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-06g-p4-4996-kr-gx-292-ea.html


why can't you just admit the 1070/1080 suck because this card obviously makes those very poor in comparison. This 980ti is faster than a 1070 and overclocked to it's max, faster than a 1080, yet cheaper than the former and pretty much half the price of the latter.... so it must suck right?


Oh wait people not trolling know that the last gen under price cuts has always been competitive with the new gen, so bringing up cards price cut to shift stocks as an argument is something only someone without a solid argument would do.

When almost every other card in the past decade launched, there was something being price cut from the previous gen that made it an incredibly good purchase. Every single new generation you get GIbbo making a thread about epic pricing of the last gen and every single time you get thread after thread talking about how big price cuts are making it hard to choose between new gen and the last few cards available of the old gen.

GTX 1070 and 1080 are great cards - the best performers out there currently in fact. GTX 980 Ti is about as fast as a GTX 1070, and overclocked it performs slightly better (something like ~*5%), while the gtx 1070 uses less watts. GTX 1070 delivers a lot for the money, and it is expensive right now because of high-demand. GTX 1080 is the only option right now if you want decent frames on a lot of newer games and highest settings on 1440p+.

All of 'em great cards, and for very different markets. And to make things interesting we now have the fury x, fury and nano for not much more than the RX 480 (better performance). Great time to buy GPUs if you ask me!

 

[kalniel]

^ spot on. There's a fantastic amount of choice right now - we shouldn't be complaining that we're in the nice position of having access to viable cards across the mid-high end range from two generations and two makers.