AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

[This never ends well]

Theres lots more, i'm gathering them up

Edit, its a troll calling himself Roy...

Was just about to upload some pics, but never mind now if it's a troll.

 

[humbug]

Lol took you long enough.

some of it looked genuine and then it all went to ____

 

[TheRealDeal]

Youve tried nothing until youve tried War Thunder in VR, by far and away the best experience so far

It's not supported yet but there is a hack to get the vive to run it through Oculus home. Oculus do seem to have a head start where big games support is concerned. I do however want a shot of War thunder in VR as i love the game without it so can imagine it's going to be great with VR.

 

[TheRealDeal]

some of it looked genuine and then it all went to ____

The first comment i read was Roy telling somebody he didn't like them

 

[Ayahuasca]

Some of those Roy Taylor comments are brilliant, worrying that some people on there actually think it's him

 

[Rroff]

http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-10-polaris-11-launch-event/

Read the comments.

Off the topic of Roy - would be interesting if AMD can hit the just behind 1070 point but at considerably lower price.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

If you can afford to drop £700 down on a headset, you can afford to drop more than £200 down on a card to go with it, its just like i said above, you wouldn't spend thousands on a top end rig, but no more than £25 on a PSU to power it all.

 

[humbug]

The first comment i read was Roy telling somebody he didn't like them

Yeah, same... that i though was genuine
I've seen him do similar on Twitter.

 

[TheRealDeal]

If you can afford to drop £700 down on a headset, you can afford to drop more than £200 down on a card to go with it, its just like i said above, you wouldn't spend thousands on a top end rig, but no more than £25 on a PSU to power it all.

If you have a really large install base you can then afford to subsidize the headset and drop prices as you will make the money back in software. So amd are trying to grow this install base. At least i think that's what they are trying to do.

 

[Seanspeed]

Not much can be done about the price of Headsets but if the price of GPU's to power them is reduced it will bring more people in.

This is simply the opposite of your box thinking, the cost of VR is more than the headset alone.

I think you both have good points.

Bringing down the price *will* bring more people in. What shouldn't be ignored is that most people aren't building rigs just for VR. Some are of course, but most PC gamers aren't. The largest VR 'market' will be people who simply already have VR-capable machinery. And right now, that is basically people with modern upper mid range hardware and up. Not a ton of people. Millions, but not dozens of millions.

£200 cards make up a larger market than £270+ cards. If you can make that entire £200 card market be VR-capable, you've just *enabled* VR to be an actual option for a lot more people. They'll certainly consider it more when it's something that isn't some 'high end-only' sort of piece of hardware.

That said, I think D.P. is also right that for as long as PC VR headsets cost what they do, the amount of people taking up that option isn't going to significantly increase. After all, the sort of person who doesn't want to spend an extra £100 on their GPU is unlikely to be the sort that is shelling out £500-700 for a VR setup. As you say humbug, there's more to the cost of VR than just the headset, but what we're talking here is like a difference between £1500 and £1400 if you want to talk total costs.

But like I said, many people will already be building PC's or upgrading for general gaming purposes and will find themselves in a position that VR is a possibility for them. So it definitely helps.

But I think headset costs have to come down desperately. And that probably wont happen til the next generation of headsets 2-3 years from now.

The softwares already here, the VR market is bloody massive.

Eh. I wouldn't say 'bloody massive' at all. I think it's incredibly small, relative speaking. If it wasn't for developers simply being excited about VR from a personal interest standpoint(unlike something like 3D or Kinect or whatever), we wouldn't have a quarter of the software it has right now because the business case for it is poor.

And the software is certainly still lacking quite a bit. I've been a huge proponent of VR so far, but I've also yet to bite on a headset because I dont feel the software support is quite there yet. Just not enough for me to think that £500+ for the hardware plus costs of software are quite worthwhile. But I'm also the type that doesn't buy a console for just one game or whatever. I need the value factor to be there and I dont think VR has it quite yet.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

The market must be massive, as AMDs going for it as i said, once they get their Polaris out, they'll be snapped up, they won't be able to make em fast enough, as everyone with a headset, and loads of games/software, will be going after them.

 

[pmc25]

So some guy flies to the event from the other side of the planet, his tickets cost $2000 return, his hotel costs $1000, but the $30 meal he brought means it's not a paid event.... though Nvidia could well have covered hotel food and food before/after the event which is fairly normal.

You ALWAYS get a per diem at these kind of events, too. They are effectively all expenses paid, not 'just' flight and hotel.

 

[JediFragger]

The market must be massive, as AMDs going for it as i said, once they get their Polaris out, they'll be snapped up, they won't be able to make em fast enough, as everyone with a headset, and loads of games/software, will be going after them.

*Everyone* I know has got one. Some guys have even bought 2!!!

 

[maonayze]

Nvidia put on a bit more than that for them. They took them to a massive Ranch and put on ATV rides, Skeet Shooting, Fishing.....So a bit more than just hotel and travel from the looks of it. Anyways lots of companies do this at major events...some have more money to do it better than others.

 

[Seanspeed]

The market must be massive, as AMDs going for it as i said, once they get their Polaris out, they'll be snapped up, they won't be able to make em fast enough, as everyone with a headset, and loads of games/software, will be going after them.

I cant tell if you're making a joke or not.

 

[Ayahuasca]

LoadsaMoney is on permanent sarcastic mode these days with AMD.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I don't really care about VR - just want a decent improvement in the sub £250 bracket from BOTH AMD and Nvidia.

Surely that is not too much to ask after so many years of GPUs being on 28NM??

 

[Orangey]

$400 is about £330, which is what 290 launched at.

Would be funny if that really was the price, AMD fans buying the same card 3 times in a row for same price.

 

[Seanspeed]

LoadsaMoney is on permanent sarcastic mode these days with AMD.

Ah ok, that makes a lot more sense.

Kinda lame, really. I can be a pretty sarcastic person, but you've gotta pick your moments and not drive it into the dirt afterwards.

I don't really care about VR - just want a decent improvement in the sub £250 bracket from BOTH AMD and Nvidia.

Surely that is not too much to ask after so many years of GPUs being on 28NM??

No it's not and I have no idea why you'd think we wouldn't get that. Chin up man. This may not be some magic generation, but it should all be great stuff whatever market tier you're in.

 

[D.P.]

I don't really care about VR - just want a decent improvement in the sub £250 bracket from BOTH AMD and Nvidia.

Surely that is not too much to ask after so many years of GPUs being on 28NM??

Well, after so many years with inflation that £250 bracket has moved up to a £350 bracket


TBH, i expect AMD to have a god sub-300 offering but the real bargains will come a little later when nvida release a GP106 card and there is a bit of a price war.

Or, according to some you will be able to pick up a 980Ti for £200