AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[Gerard]

you mean the thing used in like 40+ games that is becoming a standard feature? maybe AMD users only play indie games though

Also the thing that tanks framerates hard that you need an upscaling gimmick to use in a lot of games. People are so busy waxing the dolphin about RT but the simple fact dlss exists eat all is a stunning indictment of the fact that it was introduced too early.

I use it in BFV and the amount of smearing on certain objects is rough to say the least, though i don't think it got much support after 1 or 2 revisions.

 

[eddyr]

I'm actually worried about some of AMD's numbers. Not the charts with the multipliers but for the charts which had actual fps numbers because they say "up to" and them give fps. Normally in all other reviews data when you they show something as up to with the framerate that means the Max framerate over a period of time, not Average. So if AMD wasn't showing us averages then the performance is a bit lower than most people expect because every comparison I've seen to last Gen rdna2 and even against Nvidia people have been taking rdna3 numbers as average fps when it could be max fps. There should be a note to explain this from amd but the presentation slide doesn't include the mentioned notes they are missing, actually a lot of AMD's notes in the slide pack are missing or have errors upon examination

When I saw that I assumed they were showing FSR numbers.

 

[Patrik Horvath]

@Gibbo do you know what the official RRP will be for the 7900 XTX here in the UK or is it way too early to ask? Based on the current exchange rates I'd assume it'll be in the £1049-£1079 territory. Should we expect MBA (i.e. Made by AMD) models on top of AIBs on 13 Dec? Those reference cards look pretty damn good, and they fit in my case too.

 

[JediFragger]

@Gibbo do you know what the official RRP will be for the 7900 XTX here in the UK or is it way too early to ask? Based on the current exchange rates I'd assume it'll be in the £1049-£1079 territory. Should we expect MBA (i.e. Made by AMD) models on top of AIBs on 13 Dec? Those reference cards look pretty damn good, and they fit in my case too.

I'd personally expect £1100-1200 then be pleasantly surprised if it comes in any cheaper

 

[Purgatory]

@Gibbo do you know what the official RRP will be for the 7900 XTX here in the UK or is it way too early to ask? Based on the current exchange rates I'd assume it'll be in the £1049-£1079 territory. Should we expect MBA (i.e. Made by AMD) models on top of AIBs on 13 Dec? Those reference cards look pretty damn good, and they fit in my case too.

I'd personally expect £1100-1200 then be pleasantly surprised if it comes in any cheaper

When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Paying for games... People still do that? I much prefer paying for a game that is complete rather than this micro transaction thing that has grown in popularity. Can end up costing a fortune. I'm also noticing a rise in this whole beta thing. I get the idea, but sometimes see games eternally...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Am sure you’ve seen same stream as me? AMD literally have told me nothing so that stream is all we know.

From my experience in the industry expect following:

7900 XT reference at $899 with AIB reference cards circa £949-999 and custom ones a few quid more.

7900 XTX reference at $999 with AIB reference around £1049-£1099 and custome cards around £1199-1299.

In short it is clear the 6000 series is going to run alongside the new gen for a while especially as 6000 series has been reduced in price too:

6600 @ £229
6650 XT @ £299
6700 @ £329
6700 XT @ £399
6750 XT @ £449
6800 @ £549
6800 XT @ £629
6900 XT @ £689
6950 XT @ £799

The above is target prices that should be achievable with a pound of circa 1.15 for Black Friday deals so keep your eyes open for deals hitting around those prices.

We have 6900 XT for £649 which can be seen via the deals forum above as it’s exclusive to loyal forum members. Makes the 6800XT void as the 6900 XT is a very fast that now out performs 3080Ti in some games.

 

[arknor]

£1200-£1400 no doubt

 

[Grim5]

When I saw that I assumed they were showing FSR numbers.

To be clear this is the slide I'm referring to

 

[DeliciousStorage]

To be clear this is the slide I'm referring to

The modern warfare 2 number is 56% faster than a 6950 XT so it's within the 50-70% expected improvement range.

 

[arknor]

The modern warfare 2 number is 56% faster than a 6950 XT so it's within the 50-70% expected improvement range.

It's "upto" there could have been a spike upto 139fps but the average was around 90

if nvidia was releasing slides that had [upto] on them no doubt people would be performing mental gymnastics

AMD doin't say how they got those numbers either they could be looking at the floor or anything

 

[DeliciousStorage]

It's "upto" there could have been a spike upto 139fps but the average was around 90

if nvidia was releasing slides that had [upto] on them no doubt people would be performing mental gymnastics

AMD doin't say how they got those numbers either they could be looking at the floor or anything

If the average was 90 I'd be concerned since the 6950 XT has an average of 89. The number is too low for it to be the max FPS so I assume the "up to" part is because people might get lower scores if they have a weaker CPU. Modern Warfare 2 has a built in benchmark which they are almost certainly going to be using.

 

[arknor]

If the average was 90 I'd be concerned since the 6950 XT has an average of 89. The number is too low for it to be the max FPS so I assume the "up to" part is because people might get lower scores if they have a weaker CPU

so if I say I get upto 150fps in X title.

you wouldn't interpret that as 150fps was the max fps I achieved? I think "[upto]" speaks for itself and pretty much means the max fps why else would they say upto to cover themselves


No GPU maker has ever claimed UPTO before?

I can sell this pen for up to £5 what does that mean? the average now? or it's highest estimate

Why can't they just be transparent and upfront?

 

[DeliciousStorage]

so if I say I get upto 150fps in X title.

you wouldn't interpret that as 150fps was the max fps I achieved? I think "[upto]" speaks for itself and pretty much means the max fps why else would they say upto to cover themselves


No GPU maker has ever claimed UPTO before?

I can sell this pen for up to £5 what does that mean? the average now? or it's highest estimate

In the context that AMD have said it will be 50-70% faster, I'd assume the "up to" means the average fps in the best case scenario with a high end system. The max fps will be way higher than the average so that makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[JediFragger]

When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Paying for games... People still do that? I much prefer paying for a game that is complete rather than this micro transaction thing that has grown in popularity. Can end up costing a fortune. I'm also noticing a rise in this whole beta thing. I get the idea, but sometimes see games eternally...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Add £30 just for the LOLs

 

[uscool]

so if I say I get upto 150fps in X title.

you wouldn't interpret that as 150fps was the max fps I achieved? I think "[upto]" speaks for itself and pretty much means the max fps why else would they say upto to cover themselves


No GPU maker has ever claimed UPTO before?

I can sell this pen for up to £5 what does that mean? the average now? or it's highest estimate

Why can't they just be transparent and upfront?

Still at it ? Why not just wait for 3rd party reviews, I see other thread got locked

 

[JediFragger]

Still at it ? Why not just wait for 3rd party reviews, I see other thread got locked

Beat you to it ****.

 

[uscool]

In the context that AMD have said it will be 50-70% faster, I'd assume the "up to" means the average fps in the best case scenario with a high end system. The max fps will be way higher than the average so that makes no sense whatsoever.

Some are dreading the thought that it might be close in raster while being much lower need to justify spending £1700 I thought RT was enough

 

[JediFragger]

I have a 4090 and think currently RT is an overblown piece of **** generally, **** my fps being cut in half for nearly no reason at all. As said before, Nvidia have a solution looking for a problem it seems.

 

[Purgatory]

 

[Gerard]

I have a 4090 and think currently RT is an overblown piece of **** generally, **** my fps being cut in half for nearly no reason at all. As said before, Nvidia have a solution looking for a problem it seems.

Only game I've tried it in is BF V and it makes things look "soft" and very "smeared" at some points. Though I don't think the game was ever updated to take advantage of later versions of it.

 

[Drayvn]

There are lists of Ray Traced games out there, i think the highest number of games is around 90?

Also do remember even though it's "Ray Traced" it can mean just as much as "Ray Traced Ambient Occlusion" is bugger all and doesn't really make any difference at all, so the game has now got "Ray Tracing" in it.

Like Black Ops Cold War or Battlefield 2042.

But there are also games on the list like Crysis which have Ray Tracing which is software based.

So in the big scheme of things, the list of fully ray traced games is less than what these lists give and to have quality full ray traced games are far less.