AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[uscool]

It's "upto" there could have been a spike upto 139fps but the average was around 90

if nvidia was releasing slides that had [upto] on them no doubt people would be performing mental gymnastics

AMD doin't say how they got those numbers either they could be looking at the floor or anything

When Rdna2 was announced with AMD charts also stated upto which I'm pretty sure checked out being average FPS looking at 3rd party reviews after

For example cod modern warzone with an 6800xt at 4k ultra gets average 110 FPS that's not looking at the floor or sky so higher then the AMD slide so guess it's safe to say upto means average

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

When Rdna2 was announced with AMD charts also stated upto which I'm pretty sure checked out being average FPS looking at 3rd party reviews after

Well I guess that settles that argument.

Okay, so whats the next straw people are going to clutch onto?

 

[Nexus18]

That's simply gaslighting. You said you were lacking information and I say again the answer is the thread that got locked.

You quoted 4 words to take the post out of context and use it to refer to a thread that was locked for different reasons. Here is the full post from where you took those 4 words from:

Really don't know why people are so defensive over the RT being worse on amd, it's quite simple and as I have said in pretty much every post:

- RDNA 3 is a great gpu overall if you are upgrading from turing, lower/weaker end ampere or RDNA 2
- for those on 3080/3090 levels, RDNA 3 is not an upgrade if you also care for RT, we have had that perf. for the past 2 years, especially when you factor in that dlss uptake is still better and quicker than fsr 2+ (which is required for ampere and rdna 3 rt levels of perf)
- if you don't care for RT, we get it but believe it or not, some do care and so does pretty much every industry, game engine, developer studio, console manufacturer with them investing in it in some shape or form

If you don't care for RT, that's fine but to say it doesn't matter and tarnish the whole industry with that brush is just silly and/or ignorant, personally I think a few people just aren't fully knowledgable on the subject and for some reason refuse to acknowledge developers comments on the subject but alas, as has always been the case, it's a good thing RT is "optional" and no one is forcing people to use the effects.

That still stands true, for whatever reason, some don't want RT being talked about at all in any rdna 3 thread? Why is that? When it is apart of rdna 3 package.... Again, it's silly stating things like "can we keep RT out of the thread", should we keep any talk of raster out of the thread too? Should we keep any talk about FSR 3 out of the thread? It's like going in the 40xx series thread and telling people to "stop talking about raster".....





Back on topic, when are the reviews due? Please don't tell me December.....

BTW, is it just me or did they not show any perf. figures for the 7900xt? It was all 7900xtx results wasn't it?

I'm in 2 minds as to picking up a 7900xtx now, it will depend entirely on what it launches for in UK, if by some miracle, it does come in at £1k and I can sell my 3080 for £550/600 (got a few friends that are lined up wanting my gpu and not too clued up on pricing etc. ), I might be tempted to give this a shot as it would work out at £400, side grade in RT but upgrade in other areas, unless nvidia reduce the price of the 4080 to 1k or less, it's a no go for me.

 

[FredFlint]

If the new cards are 50%+ faster at the same or lower price/power as last gen then that is a good boost in my opinion. AMD could do a big core version, but it would cost a lot more and use more power and probably be a very low volume part as not many buy £1500+ gamer cards. I don’t care about RT at this point, I always turn it off as it’s not worth the hit. RT is at least 5 years away from been a must have function, it does not affect my purchasing decision at all.

 

[tommybhoy]

Getting the same RT effects using a 3080 as anyone else's 3080, RT'ing is generally **** anyway.

 

[Nexus18]

And just seen gibbos post on the prices, not surprised tbh:

Am sure you’ve seen same stream as me? AMD literally have told me nothing so that stream is all we know.

From my experience in the industry expect following
7900 XT reference at $899 with AIB reference cards circa £949-999 and custom ones a few quid more.
7900 XTX reference at $999 with AIB reference around £1049-£1099 and custom cards around £1199-1299.
In short it is clear the 6000 series is going to run alongside the new gen for a while especially as 6000 series has been reduced in price too:
6600 @ £229
6650 XT @ £299
6700 @ £329
6700 XT @ £399
6750 XT @ £449
6800 @ £549
6800 XT @ £629
6900 XT @ £689
6950 XT @ £799

The above is target prices that should be achievable with a pound of circa 1.15 for Black Friday deals so keep your eyes open for deals hitting around those prices.

We have 6900 XT for £649 which can be seen via the deals forum above as it’s exclusive to loyal forum members. Makes the 6800XT void as the 6900 XT is a very fast that now out performs 3080Ti in some games.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Back on topic, when are the reviews due? Please don't tell me December.....

When else would reviews come out? Tomorrow?

 

[Nexus18]

When else would reviews come out? Tomorrow?

We're more or less at the start of November still..... plenty of time to get reviews out before 13th December.... Would you not rather see something sooner than later?

 

[uscool]

We're more or less at the start of November still..... plenty of time to get reviews out before 13th December.... Would you not rather see something sooner than later?

Day before release isn't it ? Just going by recent releases

 

[Darujhistan]

Prefer later, the sooner they come out, the sooner fanbois start slating them.

Which is all the want the reviews to come out while pretending they're ever going to buy...

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

We're more or less at the start of November still..... plenty of time to get reviews out before 13th December.... Would you not rather see something sooner than later?

It would be incredibly stupid for AMD to release reviews over 2 weeks before the cards are released. Who has ever released reviews 1+ week before release.

The best time to release reviews for a product is literally a few days (arguably one day) before they go on sale.

 

[Noxia]

I'd love to know how many people who are adamant IQ is the most important thing for them (pushing RT hard) are playing on LCD or LED monitor.

 

[Shaz12]

When Rdna2 was announced with AMD charts also stated upto which I'm pretty sure checked out being average FPS looking at 3rd party reviews after

For example cod modern warzone with an 6800xt at 4k ultra gets average 110 FPS that's not looking at the floor or sky so higher then the AMD slide so guess it's safe to say upto means average

Because they were outright comparing it to the 3080 in the chart. Also they didn't use FSR in benchmarks at the time.

Its all smokes and mirrors in their marketing this time around. They claim it's competing with 4080 but if those extrapolated charts are any indication, it's demolishing the 4080 and is in 4090 territory. Custom cards may even match 4090 FE. Why not compare it with 4090 in their marketing?

 

[Nexus18]

It would be incredibly stupid for AMD to release reviews over 2 weeks before the cards are released. Who has ever released reviews 1+ week before release.

The best time to release reviews for a product is literally a few days (arguably one day) before they go on sale.

Well not really, if they have a good gpu here which by all accounts, they do, great raster, better pricing than competitor, more power efficient, vram (3-4 things that the "enthusiasts" value the most), why not get the reviews out sooner than later and make people hold out and not go for the competitors product....

I'd love to know how many people who are adamant IQ is the most important thing for them (pushing RT hard) are playing on LCD or LED monitor.

Agree, that's why I have been playing on oled for the past 6 years First LG 55e7 and then this year got the AW QD-oled, which is far superior than my 55e7 in every way possible so I'm an IQ snob in every way possible

RT + HDR + OLED + high refresh rate + VRR + 21.9 gaming heaven

 

[Shaz12]

Well not really, if they have a good gpu here which by all accounts, they do, great raster, better pricing than competitor, more power efficient, vram (3-4 things that the "enthusiasts" value the most), why not get the reviews out sooner than later and make people hold out and not go for the competitors product....



Agree, that's why I have been playing on oled for the past 6 years First LG 55e7 and then this year got the AW QD-oled, which is far superior than my 55e7 in every way possible so I'm an IQ snob in every way possible

RT + HDR + OLED + high refresh rate + VRR gaming heaven

do you use HDR 400 Trueblack or HDR 1000 on the AW?

 

[ICDP]

If the new cards are 50%+ faster at the same or lower price/power as last gen then that is a good boost in my opinion. AMD could do a big core version, but it would cost a lot more and use more power and probably be a very low volume part as not many buy £1500+ gamer cards. I don’t care about RT at this point, I always turn it off as it’s not worth the hit. RT is at least 5 years away from been a must have function, it does not affect my purchasing decision at all.

I have been working on the assumption of 50%+ purely down to the fact that AMD met their power/perf targets. I even felt 40% would be a decent boost at each tier.

My expectations for 7800 and 4080 tier were always 40% or so faster than 6800 and 3080 for the same price. When Nvidia announced 4080 price and performance it was clear they were taking the absolute **** on pricing. Especially with the 4060 4070 4080 12GB and the fact they unreleased it speaks volumes.

Thankfully AMD look to be meeting that target, and even many of the usual Nvidia fans are acknowledging that fact.

For a similar price point 7800XT could offer a 40% uplift in raster with similar RT performance and have 2GB more VRAM compared to my 3080FE.

That’s an upgrade path Nvidia currently do not offer.

 

[Nexus18]

do you use HDR 400 Trueblack or HDR 1000 on the AW?

HDR1000. It's what is recommended by tftcentral, pcmonitorsinfo and Vincent/hdtvtest since highlights i.e. clouds in halo infinite don't get clipped.

 

[Noxia]

For me in importance of IQ it would go.

OLED - HDR - 4K - RT.

RT is the only one I really wouldn't miss. Hoping for some proper QD-OLED 4k monitors, not interested in 1440p UW.

Edit the above is clearly a lie as I have been very close to buying the Dell monitor.

 

[Nexus18]

For me in importance of IQ it would go.

OLED - HDR - 4K - RT.

RT is the only one I really wouldn't miss. Hoping for some proper QD-OLED 4k monitors, not interested in 1440p UW.

Somewhat similar for me except:

OLED - HDR - RT - 4k

Not overly bothered on 4k still, can notice the benefits more nowadays in games but still a bit meh for me personally, that I think we still aren't quite there yet for high refresh 4k gaming especially with any future UE 5 titles and so on.

 

[Noxia]

Somewhat similar for me except:

OLED - HDR - RT - 4k

Not overly bothered on 4k still, can notice the benefits more nowadays in games but still a bit meh for me personally, that I think we still aren't quite there yet for high refresh 4k gaming especially with any future UE 5 titles and so on.

Yeah I was actually unsure where to place 4K when I did that.
I think for me personally I also don't really play many games that are going to use RT so perhaps that's why it's not as important for me.
I do like the eye candy turned up as much as possible whether or not going for 4K warrants spending so much more on a GPU I don't know.