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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

Anyone here remember the HD 7950? It was clocked so low as reference people where getting 40% overclocks out of them, 850Mhz to 1200Mhz.
Best gpus for playing about with that I have ever owned, ran 2 in crossfire at a cost of £360 after selling 6+6 free games and obliterated the Titan that started all the crazy pricing, could make your own custom bios files at whatever clocks you wanted negating the need for AB.
 
Yes I had one - beast, and the 7850 too another excellect card, I got 6-7 years out of those two pretty cheap really.

Yeah i had a 7850, Tahiti LE, basically a 7950 with cut down memory, brilliant card.

I very much doubt those days are coming back, AMD may limit how much you can overclock them.

However, AMD seems to be wanting to give AIB's something tangible to differentiate themselves with vs the reference designs, maybe for the reference design its not just about keeping power down and sensible coolers, but if they also allow AIB to use higher power targets they may actually clock quite a bit higher.
 
The question is how much damage can Nvidia's pride take. I do think with the existance of RDNA 3 at the prices they are at, leaves the 4080 16gb DOA. Nvidia's own markerting material shows it barely beating a 3090ti.

Two options,

Unlaunch it and swallow the public humilation.

Keep the launch have it look like a failing product and introduce the super (or 5000) series in Q1 23. Revised spec and price to properly compete with RDNA 3

AMD on the other hand needs to set the story for the mid range and low end cards, that way they can really twist the knife in Nvidia's gut.

If AMD sets the performance and the price, then Nvidia is the one on the back foot and having to react. Also it would be a great way to **** all over the 3000 series that Nvidia really wants to sell.

Its going to be more expensive than the 7900XTX if they release it as is and slower in raster.

Its very intresting, i have no doubt Nvidia are agonising about what to do, how much mindshare do they think they have.
 
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Yeah i had a 7850, Tahiti LE, basically a 7950 with cut down memory, brilliant card.

I very much doubt those days are coming back, AMD may limit how much you can overclock them.

However, AMD seems to be wanting to give AIB's something tangible to differentiate themselves with vs the reference designs, maybe for the reference design its not just about keeping power down and sensible coolers, but if they also allow AIB to use higher power targets they may actually clock quite a bit higher.

I think this would be a really good idea.
 
They do not care, remove the 4080 12Gb and say it was confusing then proceed to release an 8Gb 3060!
TBF we all knew they were lying with the BS excuse they gave. But the excuse has just enough believability for plausible deniability.

The don't have that same excuse with the 16GB one. To back peddle on two launches in quick succession, it is hard for it to not tarnish their brand image. Especially as people would be keeping an eye out fow what name they would be released under once they came out.

But if they wanted to back peddle the 16gb launch or change the specs, they had to do it before the AMD reveal, because if they do it now, it just looks like Nvidia is scared of AMD.

Also, no matter how terrible the value is, if they unlaunch it now, they cede that entire market of buyers to AMD. Something Nvidia does not want to do.
 
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Doesn't matter if they were lying or not, when Apple can admit to gimping battery life to sell new phones and folks still threw more money at them...
 
I think this would be a really good idea.
Im more looking forward to AMD's actual launch compared to nvidias this time round, the price alone is a lot more interesting provided the performance is actually there. Will be so interesting to see if nvidia double backs on everything they've tried to enforce so far.
 
TBF we all knew they were lying with the BS excuse they gave. But the excuse has just enough believability for plausible deniability.

The don't have that same excuse with the 16GB one. To back peddle on two launches in quick succession, it is hard for it to not tarnish their brand image. Especially as people would be keeping an eye out fow what name they would be released under once they came out.

But if they wanted to back peddle the 16gb launch or change the specs, they had to do it before the AMD reveal, because if they do it now, it just looks like Nvidia is scared of AMD.

Also, no matter how terrible the value is, if they unlaunch it now, they cede that entire market of buyers to AMD. Something Nvidia does not want to do.
This is why I think a price drop is more likely but the question is if they will do it before the 4080 launch to make it look like a PR victory or after the RDNA3 launch when all the performance numbers are on the table and the full extent of the embarrassment is known.
 
Anyone here remember the HD 7950? It was clocked so low as reference people where getting 40% overclocks out of them, 850Mhz to 1200Mhz.
Yup I remember them well, ran a crossfire setup with them, from a quick look at my past posts I ran them at 1125mhz, I rem one clocked abit better but ran them at the same speed for simplicity, after that I went to a 980ti and have had it since, funny that I may be going back to amd with another 7-series card.
 
This is why I think a price drop is more likely but the question is if they will do it before the 4080 launch to make it look like a PR victory or after the RDNA3 launch when all the performance numbers are on the table and the full extent of the embarrassment is known.
This walks Nvidia into another problem (of their own making), setting the price expectation for an xx80 class card.

the reason both cards were called xx80 was because they wanted to charge a lot of money for those tiny dies.

With AMD royally ******** all over Nvidia's plan, this leaves them in a difficult spot.

Price it to close to AMD offering, and then people may choose to spend an extra £50 or £100 and get far better raster performance. Price it too low and those 3000 series cards will be on fire sale by the end of the week. They also have no clue how AMD will cut down the rest of those dies. Also Nvdia dropping the price of their card by almost half before it is even on sale, will spawn memes and ridicule all over the internet.
 
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This is why I think a price drop is more likely but the question is if they will do it before the 4080 launch to make it look like a PR victory or after the RDNA3 launch when all the performance numbers are on the table and the full extent of the embarrassment is known.

Nvidia have no shame, they will launch the 4080 but no one will buy it.
 
Don't be daft, AIB 4090s are sitting on shelves, who is paying £1300+ for a 4080 that gets decimated by a 4090.
Maybe in your country. In mine only way to buy a 4090 is through a scalper. Maybe think outside your own little sphere buddy for once in your life
 
Maybe in your country. In mine only way to buy a 4090 is through a scalper. Maybe think outside your own little sphere buddy for once in your life

Wherever you are from, if they are buying up 4080s, they need to have their head checked. Wait for AMD if Nvidia and its AIBs can't be bothered to stock your area.
 
Don't be daft, AIB 4090s are sitting on shelves, who is paying £1300+ for a 4080 that gets decimated by a 4090.
You made me curious, so i checked the shop, yeah that is a lot of 4090 on sale considering how new it is, but wow there are a lot of 3000 series cards.

Look at the different versions of the 3080, just in stock, not even limited stock), every single one comes with a free gift (2 years after release :eek: )
The 3070 situation is even worst. 10 models in stock with a free gift. 3060ti and 3060, it is the same deal.

Yeah I've seen the speculation online but it is sits, different when you can actually see it on a website.

Worst part, not a good deal in sight either.
 
Im more looking forward to AMD's actual launch compared to nvidias this time round, the price alone is a lot more interesting provided the performance is actually there. Will be so interesting to see if nvidia double backs on everything they've tried to enforce so far.

They'll have to back down on price, they have tried to enforce RT on gamers and on the industry and that approach has flopped.

For me the peformance is going to be there as I'm a mid-range buyer really so the 70/80 RDNA3 card is certain to give me enoiugh of a boost to ake to worthwhile I might even go a tier higher this time around if the price is right.
 
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