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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event
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What math did you do to get 25% less performance than a 4090? According to this 13 game average at 4K the 4090 scores 145 fps compared to 85 fps for the 6950 XT. If the 7950 XTX is 50% faster that would be 127.5 fps. 127.5 fps out of 145 fps is about 88%, so 12% slower than a 4090.
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I think its... a step of positivity in the right direction. I think. The problem is that it leaves that ultimate halo tier strictly the domain of nvidia and allows them to do what they will there. Maybe thats not the worst thing since it is a very small market there. I dont know. Just a bit sad that ultimate RT *and* Raster performance in a single product is actually pulling further away in segmentation, instead of being a competitive battle ground.
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Well the RT slides the guy showed had some compelling RT games fps numbers, Cyberpunk with full RT at 4K for example was shown at 62fps vs the 42fps the RDNA2 card had. 4090 only gets over 100fps due to Frame Gen, what does a 4090 get with just DLSS2 at the same settings can anyone confirm? Either way it matters not to me, 3440x1440 QD-OLED 144Hz for a long time yet.
I'm actually quite interested in the XTX now, especially after seeing the mention of the tech partnership for Callisto Protocol. Obviously it would be silly to upgrade just for one game alone, so I want to see where else it excels once reviews come out. The power consumption, the no need to upgrade PSU from my Phanteks 750w AMP, retaining the dual 8 pin power connectors, the slimmmer slot profile in the case, the price (hopefully in the UK....).
But if my 3080 Ti runs games like Callisto at max settings with RT enabled at 100fps, then I have no need to want to upgrade for the best experience.
AMD should be congratulated, they have made a good leap in 4k RT performance
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Hyper-RX is the equiv to NV's DLSS3+Reflex combo:
Halo this gen is completely out of reach though. It's not even on the radar for most people
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Is it just me or does this look more like a 7800xt?
what? it's literally the difference between playing at 60fps in current games and over 100fps more likely 144.
he gets less perf than I do in Cyberpunk w/ pyscho RT and no DLSS. he shows like 65fps but I get around 80
Maybe he's cpu limited or was video capturing on the same machine he was benching on.
lets face it games are going to get more demanding with the release of the 4000 series and RDNA3, I wonder how long until games are using way above the max ram of old gen cards now we have 16gb and 24 gb beasts
Is it just me or does this look more like a 7800xt?
Totally agree.
It's probably going to be more than 10% slower but cost 10% or so more.
Nvidia isn't the only one with stupid names and prices - anyone who can afford the 7900xt should just buy the XTX instead it will be better value.
It should be called 7800XT and it should be $799 not $899, until that happens the $999 7900XTX is the GPU to get from both a performance and value perspective
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He's using a 5950x which when paired with a RTx4090 even at 4k is behind the 5800x3d, which is behind zen4/13th Gen. So yes he would be bottlenecked at 4k and even more so at 1440p. It varies by game but Spider-Man is the worst one he tested with the 4090 sitting at 50-60% usage while the 3080 he's comparing it to is at 100% usage. The guy isn't a proper reviewer so I can't complain, people should just get their benchmarks from better sources than someone who's entire YouTube career is about reading other peoples news he finds online in a mundane voice.
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Ballpark doesn't mean what it used to apparently
The only mental gymnastics here are done by AMD fanboys… every single new product launch.
They didn’t even compare it to their previous gen. Just RT being not even 2x. That should tell you how much confidence they DON’T have in their product.
On the other hand, they will bring out their own frame generation fsr ‘wannabe dlss3’ which is good in case you can’t switch to a 4xxx card right now. Might force Nvidia to get some kind of frame gen working on older gen cards too.
They didn’t even compare it to their previous gen. Just RT being not even 2x. That should tell you how much confidence they DON’T have in their product.
On the other hand, they will bring out their own frame generation fsr ‘wannabe dlss3’ which is good in case you can’t switch to a 4xxx card right now. Might force Nvidia to get some kind of frame gen working on older gen cards too.
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Yes they did. Did you not watch the stream?
Translation, devs are going to stick a bunch of toggles in the settings that have minimal impact to visual quality but will drop your FPS so PCMR doesn’t feel like they wasted their money.
12% slower. Interesting number.
Doesn’t the extra 100w of the 4090 only gain it about 10% performance or something.
What will be really interesting is how performance scales for RDNA3 with overclocking. How much headroom will it have is a big unknown as well. Kind of wish AMD did similar something Similar to Nvidia and had AIBs showcasing their cards. If a few of them had 3 pin connectors on them, i think the hype would have gone through the roof.
They didn’t. You’re being just as disingenous as their ‘marketing’
They literally had 2 slide comparing it to the 6950xt, their previous generation card.They didn’t. You’re being just as disingenous as their ‘marketing’
It’s okay to admit that you didn’t watch the stream.
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Something is a bit off with this launch. Are they sandbagging? But you may ask, how?
Well, there were 2 things:
1. It was rumored that AMD lowered the specs of the Reference GPU. I didn't want to believe it but apparently they did. It's like the 5700xt all over again (mid range as a top end card). There was rumored a die with more 128 WGPs and higher cache, like 192MB. Is that perhaps the 7950xt? Or will the 7950 be just a higher clock version? That's not clear yet until Nv releases the Ti.
2. It's also rumored that RDNA 3 will scale performance with more power. AIBs from Sapphire to Asus are said to show a decent gap in performance from AMD's reference model do to the higher clocks.
Well, there were 2 things:
1. It was rumored that AMD lowered the specs of the Reference GPU. I didn't want to believe it but apparently they did. It's like the 5700xt all over again (mid range as a top end card). There was rumored a die with more 128 WGPs and higher cache, like 192MB. Is that perhaps the 7950xt? Or will the 7950 be just a higher clock version? That's not clear yet until Nv releases the Ti.
2. It's also rumored that RDNA 3 will scale performance with more power. AIBs from Sapphire to Asus are said to show a decent gap in performance from AMD's reference model do to the higher clocks.
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