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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

A £1200 ish AIB 7900xtx over a £1750 AIB 4090 seems pretty obvious.
The 35% lower cost of the 7900xtx vs. 4090 may make sense, but the solitary-confinement-straight-jacket prices do not. We all need to be heralds in not normalizing the narrative that a £1200, much less £1750, flagship card makes sense in any way -- it's what they want.
 
The 35% lower cost of the 7900xtx vs. 4090 may make sense, but the solitary-confinement-straight-jacket prices do not. We all need to be heralds in not normalizing the narrative that a £1200, much less £1750, flagship card makes sense in any way -- it's what they want.
Oh 100% they are too much. I wouldn't of brought the 6900xt other than I was committed to purchasing something as working from home and such with the 980 feeling very long in tooth for work and gaming. And with Covid, restrictions in manufacturing etc that premium I could swallow. I would not this generation. Prices need to somehow fall back to where Nvidia were with the 700/900 series but that will never happen now tbh. The 780/980 prices I thought relative made sense, you still had decent bang for buck with the 760/960 in the mid tier etc.

I willl likely be always a couple of generations behind going forward now because of current pricing.
 
If it's 2nd best in rasta around 10% slower but 30% cheaper that's not too much at all that's very good value. I don't place that much value in RT and nor do many people. If you want to pay a £500 premium to have RT that's your choice, very few people will value RT at £500 and the rasta looks to be close enough at a significantly cheaper price.
That would be true if the 4090 was good value but it's not so being a bit slower and a bit cheaper doesn't automatically mean value for money.
 
The 35% lower cost of the 7900xtx vs. 4090 may make sense, but the solitary-confinement-straight-jacket prices do not. We all need to be heralds in not normalizing the narrative that a £1200, much less £1750, flagship card makes sense in any way -- it's what they want.

Yeah, seeing a lot of “it’s cheaper than a 4090”, like that is some low bar right there.
 
I'm noticing a generalized price raise after black friday towards xmas, so I suspect one would have to wait until January to get decent deals...
 
Yeah, seeing a lot of “it’s cheaper than a 4090”, like that is some low bar right there.
I see a lot of equivocating recently around this gen's absurd pricing (and I won't speculate from whence the push here is coming, but we all have suspicions). Consumers, and the enthusiast community in particular, have a responsibility to throw down the gauntlet every time someone even hints this is the new norm in pricing. Not to get all soap-boxy, but this is a pivotal time in the market when we can either let "influences" yoke us to accept a new pricing model, or we pull back the mindshare (and cost) to a reasonable level.
 
I'm noticing a generalized price raise after black friday towards xmas, so I suspect one would have to wait until January to get decent deals...
I'd say the real deals won't be for another 12 months. Once the pain of recession, interest rates and rising debts kicks in the retail market for "luxury" items will fall off a cliff. I think the tech space already know this hence they are holding back production anticipating a big drop in sales.
 
That would be true if the 4090 was good value but it's not so being a bit slower and a bit cheaper doesn't automatically mean value for money.
It isn't just a bit cheaper though. It is looking to be 45% cheaper for almost identical Rasta performance! That is daft to suggest as you have multiple times a bit slower/bit cheaper cause it isn't reality. If the 4090 is £1699 (FE) and the 7900xtx Ref model was £1599 I could understand that sentiment but it just isn't that.

They are all overprice from top to bottom, even the previous generation at current prices are. But that doesn't change at moment out of the two the Nividia 4090 is by far much worse value propersition even if you love RT and that the No.1 feature you want.
 
At this point I wouldn't even be in surprised if it goes that way

so how long before GPUs go down the subscription route?

60TFlops = £1849.99
Unlock additional shaders for a 10% performance boost - £9.99 a month
RT unlock free for 12 months then £4.99 a month

Actually what I think will happen eventually is that they are making GPU's increasingly expensive so in a couple of years they will be sold like car PCP's or mobile phone contracts.

You take out a contract for say a RTX 5090 which costs £3000 to buy outright or you pay say £200 per month on a 2 year contract (total cost £4800) and at the end of the term you hand it back and get rolled onto a new RTX 6090 contract. That way Nvidia tie you into their product
 
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Actually what I think will happen eventually is that they are making GPU's increasingly expensive so in a couple of years they will be sold like car PCP's or mobile phone contracts.

You take out a contract for say a RTX 5090 which costs £3000 to buy outright or you pay say £200 per month on a 2 year contract (total cost £4800) and at the end of the term you hand it back and get rolled onto a new RTX 6090 contract. That way Nvidia tie you into their procuct

I can totally see this.
 
Actually what I think will happen eventually is that they are making GPU's increasingly expensive so in a couple of years they will be sold like car PCP's or mobile phone contracts.

You take out a contract for say a RTX 5090 which costs £3000 to buy outright or you pay say £200 per month on a 2 year contract (total cost £4800) and at the end of the term you hand it back and get rolled onto a new RTX 6090 contract. That way Nvidia tie you into their product

and the card sends data back to nvidia on how many hours it's been used. The PCP is 48 months / 730 hours a year lol You also have to hand the card back in pristine condition, any damage is taken off the price or they'll then sell you an insurance product to protect it

Base Price £2,449
Options - RGB Lights, Black PCB, Braided Power cable - £449
Dealer discount - £449
GFV - £249
PCP - 48 Months, 730hrs
Deposit - £500
Finance 8.9% APR

Nvidia Premium Plan (Early Access Driver Updates) £10 per month
Financial Insurance Policy £10 per month
Service Plan for 4yrs (inc Next Day Swap, Yearly Health Check) £20 per month
 
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and the card sends data back to nvidia on how many hours it's been used. The PCP is 48 months / 730 hours a year lol You also have to hand the card back in pristine condition, any damage is taken off the price or they'll then sell you an insurance product to protect it

Base Price £2,449
Options - RGB Lights, Black PCB, Braided Power cable - £449
Dealer discount - £449
PCP - 48 Months, 730hrs
Deposit - £500
Finance 8.9% APR

Nvidia Premium Plan (Early Access Driver Updates) £10 per month
Financial Insurance Policy £10 per month
Service Plan for 4yrs (inc driver health check) £20 per month
If that ever happens, gaming will be ruined and pretty much done with. I'm sure a lot of people will just give up at this point and probs consider handheld gaming devices like the steamdeck instead.
 
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