AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D retail processor has been tested ahead of launch

uscool · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:43

Bencher said:
No benchmark found it equal though. It loses on techspot, loses on techpowerup, loses on linus. Yes, by a fraction, but it's the same fraction that the 12700 loses to as well (actually linus found the 12700 > 12900). So point still stands, the 12700 is the one to beat in performance and value, and it's not even close to doing that.

we have to see more spread of games will be interesting, can imagine all them people currently on Am4 with ryzen 3000 and below to get such nice boost in gaming by just dropping in CPU not everyone would wanna complete system change costs more must be plenty of them people . great to see how AMD pushing forward , pretty hyped now what zen4 can do

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:49

humbug said:
I told you TPU have MCE enabled. Its why its pulling exactly the same watts as OC.

DUDE, learn what MCE is, lol

From the horses mouth
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?106375-MCE-explanations-and-others

It just removes the power limits. In the case of 12900k, those limits are already 240watts. Therefore, it doesn't do anything for gaming. Nada

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:49

With AM4 dropping soon i'm expecting gaming performance to be very good, the 5800X3D is a match for the 12900KS with £500 DDR5 RAM, i'm expecting Ryzen 7000 series to tear past that and leave it standing in its dust with its own DDR5.

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:49

Freddie1980 said:
Well.......if you want the fastest CPU your looking at Threadripper Zen3 Pro lol but lets keep to semi realistic levels of spending. A 12900KS is the fastest allrounder consumer CPU but if your gamer you would get the 5800X3D if your not going to be productivity. A 12700f is a good sensable buy that most people would and should consider but it's around 10% slower depending on what reviews you read then the 58003D.

4% according to linus.

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:50

humbug said:
the 5800X3D is a match for the 12900KS with £500 DDR5 RAM

No it's not. Can we stop spreading false information?

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/2449/bench/Average.png

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:51

@Bencher give it a rest.

uscool · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:52

humbug said:
With AM4 dropping soon i'm expecting gaming performance to be very good, the 5800X3D is a match for the 12900KS with £500 DDR5 RAM, i'm expecting Ryzen 7000 series to tear past that and leave it standing in its dust with its own DDR5.

raptor 6.5ghz and whatever power it takes

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:52

humbug said:
@Bencher give it a rest.

After you stop spreading missinformation, I will

timorous · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:53

Bencher said:
No benchmark found it equal though. It loses on techspot, loses on techpowerup, loses on linus. Yes, by a fraction, but it's the same fraction that the 12700 loses to as well (actually linus found the 12700 > 12900). So point still stands, the 12700 is the one to beat in performance and value, and it's not even close to doing that.

It won at PCGH and Toms Hardware. Computer Base had Intel win slightly.

It really depends on the game suite.

Need Voodoo to do his summary over at reddit to get a clearer picture and HUB to do their 30 game roundup.

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:54

uscool said:
raptor 6.5ghz and whatever power it takes

Bencher said:
After you stop spreading missinformation, I will

The link you just put up shows +4% to the 12900KS with DDR5 6400MT/s, you're arguing in semantics.

timorous · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:54

Bencher said:
No it's not. Can we stop spreading false information?

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/2449/bench/Average.png

Factorio is a game last time I checked but that is not included in HUBs average. I understand why because it is a different metric but still AMD wins that by 26% vs the 12900KS with DDR5 6400.

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:57

humbug said:
The link you just put up shows +4% to the 12900KS with DDR5 6400MT/s, you're arguing in semantics.

And linus found the 12700 to be within 4% of the 5800x3d. So...the 5800x3d is tied to the 12700, no?

Troezar · 14 Apr 2022 at 15:59

I think it's fair to say in a double blind test you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in gaming and both will be good for years to come. Right now that's all I need to know. A drop in upgrade will keep my system going for quite some time. If I was after a new build I'd hold out now for AM5 and the new Intel chips.

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:00

Bencher said:
And linus found the 12700 to be within 4% of the 5800x3d. So...the 5800x3d is tied to the 12700, no?

And with in 3% of the 12900K. They are all the same when what you're measuring in the GPU's performance.

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:01

timorous said:
It won at PCGH and Toms Hardware. Computer Base had Intel win slightly.

It really depends on the game suite.

Need Voodoo to do his summary over at reddit to get a clearer picture and HUB to do their 30 game roundup.

PCGH tests with 4400 ddr5 lol

Bencher · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:02

humbug said:
And with in 3% of the 12900K. They are all the same when what you're measuring in the GPU's performance.

Thats my point all along. There is a 5% +- between the 12700 all the way up to the 12900ks. Unless you splash a cashload for fast ddr5 of course, in which case alderlakes fly.

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:03

Troezar said:
I think it's fair to say in a double blind test you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in gaming and both will be good for years to come. Right now that's all I need to know. A drop in upgrade will keep my system going for quite some time. If I was after a new build I'd hold out now for AM5 and the new Intel chips.

But +4 Frames out of every 100 yo.

FangBlade · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:03

Intel knew how good 3d version would be so they released KS version, RPL 5.8 ghz is officialy panic mode, Intel won't have easy time, they will need to work at full operating mode to control damage.

humbug · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:05

Bencher said:
Thats my point all along. There is a 5% +- between the 12700 all the way up to the 12900ks. Unless you splash a cashload for fast ddr5 of course, in which case alderlakes fly.

You switch your arguments literally from one post to the next, depending on what suits it.

4% is equal to in reality, glad you now agree, all it took was 2 posts.

LtMatt · 14 Apr 2022 at 16:08

timorous said:
It won at PCGH and Toms Hardware. Computer Base had Intel win slightly.

It really depends on the game suite.

Need Voodoo to do his summary over at reddit to get a clearer picture and HUB to do their 30 game roundup.

It really does. Kitguru have the 5800X3D winning by a small margin as well as many others I've seen such as Hot Hardware, etc. Some also have the KS winning by a small margin so swings and roundabouts.

You'll find some games favour one over the other and perhaps one reviewer has one winning by a few percent vs another reviewer, but when you average it all out they are basically even.

So excited to get one now, it's really going to benefit my main games (outside of Football Manager in which I expect it to be slower) and in those games it definitely the fastest gaming chip out there.