Truth or not both have made their public statements and amd is getting drilled for theirs. They should just hire borris if they struggling to find a way to waffle and lie out of a situationso they must be telling the truth then
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Poll: AMD Screws Gamers: Sponsorships Likely Block DLSS
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Oh so i guess you’re simply trolling. Ok then. I keep giving people benefit of the doubt but jfc…
tbh AMD should have just own up, they just made it worse with their replies.Truth or not both have made their public statements and amd is getting drilled for theirs. They should just hire borris if they struggling to find a way to waffle and lie out of a situation
Caporegime
Own up to what?
its too early, ask me later
Caporegime
Truth or not both have made their public statements and amd is getting drilled for theirs. They should just hire borris if they struggling to find a way to waffle and lie out of a situation
The best way out of the situation is to ignore it, saying anything at all will just give them more ammunition.
At worst all these people can do is keep crying AMD wont talk to us.
FSR is open source. If Nvidia was serious about streamline they could implement FSR into it, without cooperation from AMD. They haven't so make of that what you will.
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Blocking out DLSS cuts out upscaling but also removes frame gen and DLAA. The later two I find more appealing given the raw processing power I have in the 4090.
DLAA especially is a much better AA solution while keeping native IQ. In CP2077, the best IQ is using DLAA, with FG and overdrive RTX.
DLAA especially is a much better AA solution while keeping native IQ. In CP2077, the best IQ is using DLAA, with FG and overdrive RTX.
I'm not trolling, your response was very much entitlement, you bought an expensive gpu, expecting all games to take advantage of it.
A big game being released won't use nvidia features and you call it anti consumer, when the answer is simple.
Caporegime
I'm going to let my competitor distribute my rival feature in their black box software which i have no access to because i'm going to trust them to make my features as good as it can be along side theirs.
I'm also an idiot.
Why is it not using those features? Because of AMD intentionally blocking them = anticonsumer.
Doesnt get simpler than that. Indeed the answer is simple. You were right about that.
Caporegime
There is more to that,as people looked into it in more detail in the RT thread:
The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.
OK,lets try this angle. AMD decides to launch FSR3 for Starfield - it only is locked to RDNA3 cards. It ends up being OK by some miracle. Will most people on the internet ditch their Nvidia cards for an RDNA3 one? Or will they moan they want DLSS in the game,and AMD is "forcing" them to upgrade...
forums.overclockers.co.uk
The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.
OK,lets try this angle. AMD decides to launch FSR3 for Starfield - it only is locked to RDNA3 cards. It ends up being OK by some miracle. Will most people on the internet ditch their Nvidia cards for an RDNA3 one? Or will they moan they want DLSS in the game,and AMD is "forcing" them to upgrade...
forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Caporegime
Not only that, if you integrate this feature, it has to be plastered all over your game with our branding, marketing logos etc or it can't be used. Never mind that our competition sponsor it, that's just how it has to be.
Oh btw, we'll also be allowed to plaster the game all over our website and use it for marketing, even though we've paid nothing for the privilege of doing so.
Don't blame us though, after all...
I get your point (i think). I understand Why AMD wouldn't want to work with Nvidia. I'm not saying they should.
However with FSR being open source, AMD is powerless to stop Nvidia from forking it and adding it to streamline. The fact that Nvidia hasn't added FSR to streamline is telling. Nvidia are not serious about streamline.
IMO streamline is a marketing ploy for uninformed people to throw around in online discussions.
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Caporegime
Not only that, if you integrate this feature, it has to be plastered all over your game with our branding, marketing logos etc or it can't be used. Never mind that our competition sponsor it, that's just how it has to be.
Oh btw, we'll also be allowed to plaster the game all over our website and use it for marketing, even though we've paid nothing for the privilege of doing so.
Don't blame us though, after all...
One of the complaints by tech jurno's is that AMD refuse to let Nvidia put FSR in to Streamline, how can they be so naive?
Caporegime
One of the rules of open source is that if you integrate another's open source software in to your own then that software must also be open source, so that means Strealine and DLSS, AMD must have access to the source code for those software's.
Go ahead Nvidia, do the right thing....
What Nvidia want is for AMD to wave that right.
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Caporegime
Who made that complaint?
FSR is open source so I'm sure Nvidia could do that if they wanted to, however it would be odd for them to integrate a competitors technology.
If you look at the licence agreement for FSR, nothing would stop them from doing that AFAIK, but I'm not an expert so could be wrong here and maybe there are potential legal issues why they don't do that. Pure speculation on my part.
However the DLSS licence agreement is probably the biggest issue here (in my personal opinion) but everyone seems to just ignore that or haven't bothered to read and understand it.
Fair play, yes that's one very good reason to avoid streamline then. It should be no surprise really in that case.There is more to that,as people looked into it in more detail in the RT thread:
The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.
OK,lets try this angle. AMD decides to launch FSR3 for Starfield - it only is locked to RDNA3 cards. It ends up being OK by some miracle. Will most people on the internet ditch their Nvidia cards for an RDNA3 one? Or will they moan they want DLSS in the game,and AMD is "forcing" them to upgrade...The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.
OK,lets try this angle. AMD decides to launch FSR3 for Starfield - it only is locked to RDNA3 cards. It ends up being OK by some miracle. Will most people on the internet ditch their Nvidia cards for an RDNA3 one? Or will they moan they want DLSS in the game,and AMD is "forcing" them to upgrade...
That's what I said maybe a year ago when Nexus was bringing up streamline and why don't AMD support it.
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Not only that, if you integrate this feature, it has to be plastered all over your game with our branding, marketing logos etc or it can't be used. Never mind that our competition sponsor it, that's just how it has to be.
Oh btw, we'll also be allowed to plaster the game all over our website and use it for marketing, even though we've paid nothing for the privilege of doing so.
Don't blame us though, after all...
Let's put DLSS for and take this war cry at face value.
XESS is also open source and based on my reading, has no marketing stipulation attached. Yet, it's also being blocked out:
xess/licenses/LICENSE.pdf at main · intel/xess
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Surely the champions of open source here should have an issue with this right?
Caporegime
I added to that, what Nvidia want is for AMD to wave that right, because they don't want AMD to have access to the source code of Streamline or DLSS.
Can't have it both ways...
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Caporegime
What proof do you have anything is being blocked out?Let's put DLSS for and take this war cry at face value.
XESS is also open source and based on my reading, has no marketing stipulation attached. Yet, it's also being blocked out:
xess/licenses/LICENSE.pdf at main · intel/xess
Contribute to intel/xess development by creating an account on GitHub.
Surely the champions of open source here should have an issue with this right?