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beany_bot said:
3900x vs 4790K (I know a lot want to see this). 10% uplift on average. Kinda sad actually. 10% in 5 years. And thats ignoring that large overclock you can typically get on a 4790K. Im willing to bet they are the same FPS if the 4790 is at 4.6-4.8Ghz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqL7NYS5r2k
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In fairness, it same for Intel latest CPU's. They just the same. Although 10% average is not what that showed and was closer to 14-15% uplift apart from where 4K is concerned.

I am on 4790k and tbh I am not expecting huge changes right now with CPU but would mean I can have YouTube, Discord, Spotify, a few tabs open and game without worrying then with 6-8 core option as I don't see the 3600 to be much different in those game titles. Most are on engines that don't do a huge amount with more cores.

Give the 3900x some games in two to three years though and I suspect the 4790K would fall off a cliff in comparison at same settings (at least at 1080/1440. I would say that at least my 4790K has never had great frame timings and compared to a few Ryzen systems I have used previous it at least didn't feel as smooth when gaming.

Edit: Would be interesting to see with Radeon VII or V64 too since that appears to currently get more perf. for AMD Ryzen
 
Curlyriff said:
Give the 3900x some games in two to three years though and I suspect the 4790K would fall off a cliff in comparison at same settings (at least at 1080/1440. I would say that at least my 4790K has never had great frame timings and compared to a few Ryzen systems I have used previous it at least didn't feel as smooth when gaming.
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These are my thoughts exactly. The next 1-2 years where games start making use of threads more and more, I think the old Intel parts will drop off quickly in performance.
 
gilljoy said:
We likely won't get them this week let alone today I think
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***Another Retailer*** aren’t getting stock till next week. I know they don’t specialise in PC components but with their buying power and supply network it does give you an idea of what a shambles this 7/7 launch is from AMD.

I’m still hoping OC’s pull off some magic though.


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Pete77777 said:
***Another Retailer*** aren’t getting stock till next week. I know they don’t specialise in PC components but with their buying power and supply network it does give you an idea of what a shambles this 7/7 launch is from AMD.

I’m still hoping OC’s pull off some magic though.
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It gives me some time to decide one what case to replace my Desing R4 with though, that's a positive right...
 
opethdisciple said:
And this video makes it look like the all core boost of the 3800x is on average 100MHz higher than the 3700x up too 4.4GHz.


The 1% lows look much better on the 3800x tho. Up to double in what looks like to be the Division 2

So my take from that video is the 3700x and the 3800x will give you on average similar highs and average frames, but the 3800x will give you much better minimums.
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why is the 3600 so commonly tested instead of 3600x and 3700x 3800x tested instead of non X models, inconsistent testing paths.

On intel my chosen cpu (8600k) often got ignored instead for the 8400, and on this amd launch my favoured cpu 3600x ignored in favour of 3600, bizarre.

Anyone got a 3600x vs 3700x vs 3800x?
 
Wingz said:
From Reddit about the concerns that the PBO not boosting properly



So it sounds like its not a bios problem, but working as intended :rolleyes:
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well yeah, thats how PBO has always been, XFR is just really good yet people somehow expect big boosts from manual OC or PBO when XFR is already close to maximising the chip.
 
It's what chips were shipped to reviewers.

Hence why there's nothing on my personal preferred chip the 3800x yet. Which is why I'm going to wait a couple of weeks for everything to settle down and then snag stuff.


M.
 
BoomAM said:
I've decided that the thermals on this 3900X makes no sense whatsoever. :p

It idles high, like 30-50*c, usually hovering in the low 40's.
If i manually set the voltage down from what appears to be a fairly consistent (but still changing) 1.4-1.5v, down to 1.2v, it idles 3-5*c lower, and Primes up-to 83*c after a few seconds.
If i leave it as is, and let it do what it wants, it idles as above, but primes around 65-69, with the occasional micro-spike to 77*c.

So use less voltage, create more heat!?
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Whats your voltage under idle? 1.2v for idle is very very high for a modern chip.
 
andy_mk3 said:
These are my thoughts exactly. The next 1-2 years where games start making use of threads more and more, I think the old Intel parts will drop off quickly in performance.
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lol that has been said fooorrrreeeevvveeeerrr. By the times games use more than say 8 cores on something like a 9900K, both it and the 3900X will be a distant memory.
 
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