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Installed my 3700x today. Impressed!
Two things:
1. Windows does feel snappier as do games.
2. DOCP didn't work at first. But thankfully I had read over the weeks that you can slowly increment the frequency and reboot until you get to your target speed and now it works at 3200MHz.
Two things:
1. Windows does feel snappier as do games.
2. DOCP didn't work at first. But thankfully I had read over the weeks that you can slowly increment the frequency and reboot until you get to your target speed and now it works at 3200MHz.
Soldato
Not really, i dont OC at all. As long as it runs everything at spec i'd be happy.
You are assuming everyone has the same board as you. They do not.
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Is the Asus TUF x570 recommended?
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Really interested to see AMD can bump up clock speed by a notable amount in the refresh next year.
What I’d also like to see a larger effort by AMD to make sure the future games aren’t hampered on Ryzen’s. I don’t mean one or select games but across the board.
What I’d also like to see a larger effort by AMD to make sure the future games aren’t hampered on Ryzen’s. I don’t mean one or select games but across the board.
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I can't help but think that AMD are absolutely on the edge of what hey can achive at the moment.
Hell, most peoples CPU's (Zen2) arent even boosting to the advertised frequencies! so I can't imagine the refresh suddenly making a huge difference. You will get 100Mhz out of Ryzen 4000 I recon.
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It's the very first iteration of their 7nm process. There is usually fairly good scope to refine a new process.
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If they had what it takes to beat the 9900k they would have done it for 3000. They really wanted that crown. They threw everything at zen2. Like I said. Chips aren't even hitting their advertised frequencies because they pushed so hard.
Don't get me wrong, I love (and bought) them. But
I don't think there is much if any headroom for ryzen 4000.
We don't know much about Ryzen 4000 yet but we do know that TSMC is pushing hard towards using EUV tech, and that their 7nm+ process will for the first time make use of this.
Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography will allow for fewer manufacturing stages, increased density and reduced power consumption, all of which are good for us.
Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography will allow for fewer manufacturing stages, increased density and reduced power consumption, all of which are good for us.
Some guy, idk if I can find it again, did a demo showing that yes you can reach the advertised frequencies.
However it's far more than simply knocking work down to one core or one thread.
The type of operations the cpu is asked to do are important, only extremely simple (in terms of operations, not what appears simple to a viewer) work will maximise the clock speed of the cpu.
The reality is, you're not likely to have a real workload that does that.
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I have the X570 Taichi, BIOS 1.6 with 4 x 8Gb rated at 3600 (16-16-16-36) but it's not stable at that speed. It boots to windows but performance is choppy and eventually it'll crash and reboot. Currently running ok at 3200 (14-14-14-34) but if it turns out to be unstable I'll fiddle with it a bit more. Will experiment more as BIOS updates get released.
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Have you tried 3533 16-16-16-36 at 1.35v and manually set the IF to 1767?
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Define much?
TSMC has stated that the upgrade to 7nm+ EUV will offer at least a 20% increase to transistor density and a 10% performance uplift or 15% power efficiency increase.
Is 10% much?
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Yeah no chance of that at that voltage
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Trying that now. Not noticing any signs of instability which I was seeing before immediately after booting into windows (mouse pointer hitching, video playback stuttering, etc), and I haven't crashed after 10 minutes. Looking ok so far, will see if it keeps up. Ta.
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Does anybody with a 3900x knows how much wattage he get WHILE gaming, so only for the 3900x. Stock and overclocked. Thx
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It'll depend on a combination of node maturity along with engineering progress on the architecture.
If they can't squeeze out another 10% it'd be a shame but let's see.
If Intel decide to do a die without iGPU and spread out thermal density, they'll have headroom even on 14nm+++++++ using a new architecture.
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That surely means less dies per wafer = more £?
Plus you still do need to deal with the heat produced even if it was 75mm x 75mm in size. No magic bullets there.