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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

melmac said:
Well, I am not too sure about the x470 motherboards Agesa versions. But with X570, There is a bug if the Infinity fabric is running higher than 1800Mhz. It might be causing your test to fail and not the CL14. Agesa 1.0.0.3ab fixes this, but, will that come to x470 motherboards?

Second You should run your memory at 3733Mhz CL17. According to AMD that's the ideal setting for 1:1 ratio with the Infinity Fabric running at 1867Mhz.

You might have better luck running your memory at 3600Mhz if you really want to use Cl14.

EDIT: This is what I get when I write post so late at night. :) I mess up. On the x470 motherboards the Infinity Fabric and the Memory speed decouple after a certain speed to prevent crashing. The bug only applies to x570 chipsets.

Which leads to the question, are you gaining anything in performance by running memory higher than 3600Mhz on older chipsets? It's 1:1 ratio when it's coupled but divides 1:2 after 3600Mhz.
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Reality is there is i gain from CL14 not big one at lest.
 
Illuminist said:
Okay this has to be my dumbest question, but I am at a loss.
When I installed the x570 i obviously installed all the motherboard drivers, including the audio.
But, and this has happened years ago, the realtek driver is installed but there is no sound manager for it in the task bar. I've tried uninstall and reinstalling but it's just not there.
Someone please advise this lost soul
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You should be able to run the GUI from here: C:\Program Files\Realtek\Audio\HDA\RtkNGUI64.exe
 
pcfarrar said:
You should be able to run the GUI from here: C:\Program Files\Realtek\Audio\HDA\RtkNGUI64.exe
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Nope, tried that, neither the program files 86 or 64 one does anything when I click them, Google says there should be a hda folder in there, but that's not either. It'll be fine with the windows one, I just needed it to change some settings. Just weird that it didn't install with the driver, hadn't happened for years
 
Crikey these chips are warm. My 1600 would idle at around 32, load about 65 under my Kraken X62, this 3900X idles at around 50, load it has hit as high as 80.

Is this normal?! On a completely clean install with latest BIOS and Chipset drivers installed using the Ryzen Balanced plan

Watching CAM - It is bouncing between the 50's and mid 60's all the time!?
 
Steedie said:
Crikey these chips are warm. My 1600 would idle at around 32, load about 65 under my Kraken X62, this 3900X idles at around 50, load it has hit as high as 80.

Is this normal?! On a completely clean install with latest BIOS and Chipset drivers installed using the Ryzen Balanced plan
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Sadly its a hot little biscuit. To many choc chips in too small a space
 
Steedie said:
Crikey these chips are warm. My 1600 would idle at around 32, load about 65 under my Kraken X62, this 3900X idles at around 50, load it has hit as high as 80.

Is this normal?! On a completely clean install with latest BIOS and Chipset drivers installed using the Ryzen Balanced plan

Watching CAM - It is bouncing between the 50's and mid 60's all the time!?
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No dude, it should not be idling at 50C, no way. There has to be a program that is keeping the PC from going idle. Try closing CAM and use something like HWInfo64. My previous keyboard program would not let my CPU go idle and had it always stuck at almost 1.5v.
 
Steedie said:
Crikey these chips are warm. My 1600 would idle at around 32, load about 65 under my Kraken X62, this 3900X idles at around 50, load it has hit as high as 80.

Is this normal?! On a completely clean install with latest BIOS and Chipset drivers installed using the Ryzen Balanced plan
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You using the CAM software temp measurement? After the latest chipset install it showed the correct idle temp in CAM for a couple of days but now doesnt again for me.

Use Ryzen Master (RM) for correct temps. Or is CAM correct, and I'm looking at temps that I want in RM? HWINFO shows temps in between those read by CAM & RM.

Guessing as its AMD's software in RM they have the polling correct.
 
Nghtmare said:
No dude, it should not be idling at 50C, no way. There has to be a program that is keeping the PC from going idle. Try closing CAM and use something like HWInfo64. My previous keyboard program would not let my CPU go idle and had it always stuck at almost 1.5v.
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Ryzen Master shows it idling at 39 stable, that's with CAM closed too. Wonder what CAM was doing!
 
I think CAM is glitched as it always shows a temperature around 10-12 or so higher than what is shown in Ryzen Master

EDIT - Told CAM to base the fan curve on the liquid temp instead of the CPU temp, and the temp is now at 37 in RM, much better! Thanks guys
 
teppic said:
Seems like a decent chip. Now try your memory at 3800MHz and IF at 1900MHz :) That RAM will do it fine.
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With my RAM to 3800 and IF at 1900 (3800X) I took a performance hit compared to 3733/1866. In Cinebench anyway (~300 points). I also needed 1.49V on DRAM to sustain 3800MHz. Since 3733 is faster and the performance difference between 3733 and 3600 is naff all I've stuck with 3600/1800.
 
Also guys on the latest Chipset Drivers the CPU minimum frequency is 99% on Ryzen Balanced. The CPU goes down to 1.0xxv on Idle and some cores "sleep". I personally reduced that to 90% and now the CPU idles at 0.9xxv which also reduced idle temps (cant remember how much because it was the day it released).
 
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