• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

How are people finding having no error code/light LEDs on the Aorus Elite? Still stuck looking at Asus TUF, Pro and Gigabyte Aorus Elite. Only the Asus boards have such a long QVL at the moment though.. damn this isn't an easy decision.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
How are people finding having no error code/light LEDs on the Aorus Elite? Still stuck looking at Asus TUF, Pro and Gigabyte Aorus Elite. Only the Asus boards have such a long QVL at the moment though.. damn this isn't an easy decision.
Click to expand...
I installed PC speaker FIRST time in freaking decade... If its totally ****** it beeps 3 times then you wait wait and wait and it boots up on default settings :D
 
Illuminist said:
I'm having trouble with the level called, get past the post.
Hardest game I've played takes me 5 minutes to beat it only to die and have to re do the whole level. I think I'm on the latency level now but one bad move and I'll have to restart at the get past the post checkpoint
Click to expand...
Well gotta wait for new AGESA i guess and new bioses at this stage :P
 
Honestly guys I think Ryzen CPUs are disappointing for gaming. I purchased R7 2700 when the price dropped after the release of 3rd gen CPUs and after testing I decided to return it as it was bottlenecking 980ti at 3440x1440 resolution.! (had it overclocked to 4.15Ghz with 2933 ram).
Now I got the 3700X and it's still bottlenecking my 980ti in some games regardless if I leave it at stock/enable PBO or overclock it to 4.3Ghz (GTA V can drop to like 50fps at times.!).
None of this was happening when I had my lemon 6700K that wouldn't overclock past 4.6Ghz.
Even the CPU in my laptop can run games with less frame rate drops (never seen it drop as low as 50fps in GTA V) and that only has i5 8300H that runs at 3.9Ghz while gaming.
All of those benchmarks and comparisons that we see are completely useless and only DF is showing exactly what is happening when you play a game from start to finish.
Should have gone with 9700K instead but there you have it. You live and learn...

 
z10m said:
Honestly guys I think Ryzen CPUs are disappointing for gaming. I purchased R7 2700 when the price dropped after the release of 3rd gen CPUs and after testing I decided to return it as it was bottlenecking 980ti at 3440x1440 resolution.! (had it overclocked to 4.15Ghz with 2933 ram).
Now I got the 3700X and it's still bottlenecking my 980ti in some games regardless if I leave it at stock/enable PBO or overclock it to 4.3Ghz (GTA V can drop to like 50fps at times.!).
None of this was happening when I had my lemon 6700K that wouldn't overclock past 4.6Ghz.
Even the CPU in my laptop can run games with less frame rate drops (never seen it drop as low as 50fps in GTA V) and that only has i5 8300H that runs at 3.9Ghz while gaming.
All of those benchmarks and comparisons that we see are completely useless and only DF is showing exactly what is happening when you play a game from start to finish.
Should have gone with 9700K instead but there you have it. You live and learn...

Click to expand...

Two things. You need to increase your FCLK and clock your ram appropriately.
 
opethdisciple said:
Two things. You need to increase your FCLK and clock your ram appropriately.
Click to expand...

Except my laptop is running lower frequency ram and doesn't experience those frame rate drops.
And even if I do get better ram how much of an improvement in games am I going to get.? 10%.? That's still not enough...
 
z10m said:
Except my laptop is running lower frequency ram and doesn't experience those frame rate drops.
And even if I do get better ram how much of an improvement in games am I going to get.? 10%.? That's still not enough...
Click to expand...

Your gonna have to elaborate what the problem is here fully as I dont find my 3700x a bottle neck.

What speed ram are you running? Flashed latest bios? Installed chipset drivers?

---

The bottleneck you might be seeing here might actually be your GPU.
 
z10m said:
Honestly guys I think Ryzen CPUs are disappointing for gaming. I purchased R7 2700 when the price dropped after the release of 3rd gen CPUs and after testing I decided to return it as it was bottlenecking 980ti at 3440x1440 resolution.! (had it overclocked to 4.15Ghz with 2933 ram).
Now I got the 3700X and it's still bottlenecking my 980ti in some games regardless if I leave it at stock/enable PBO or overclock it to 4.3Ghz (GTA V can drop to like 50fps at times.!).
None of this was happening when I had my lemon 6700K that wouldn't overclock past 4.6Ghz.
Even the CPU in my laptop can run games with less frame rate drops (never seen it drop as low as 50fps in GTA V) and that only has i5 8300H that runs at 3.9Ghz while gaming.
All of those benchmarks and comparisons that we see are completely useless and only DF is showing exactly what is happening when you play a game from start to finish.
Should have gone with 9700K instead but there you have it. You live and learn...

Click to expand...


You got issues because Zen 2 is up there with intel in GTA 5. Calling BS.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar/17
 
The problem is that some games (GTA V in particular) can drop well below 60fps which is pathetic really considering its a CPU from 2019 and not the cheapest one on top of that.
Yes I have the latest bios and chipset drivers installed and my ram is at 2933mhz cl14 (can't go any higher as that's it's limit).
 
z10m said:
The problem is that some games (GTA V in particular) can drop well below 60fps which is pathetic really considering its a CPU from 2019 and not the cheapest one on top of that.
Yes I have the latest bios and chipset drivers installed and my ram is at 2933mhz cl14 (can't go any higher as that's it's limit).
Click to expand...

It's your ram. 2933 is not enuf to overcome the IF shortcoming. You need not just fast ram but tight timings. Even a R7 1700 @ only 3.8 but with 3466MHz of RAM with CL14 timing is able to handle a 1080 TI.
 
Orange Nexus said:
It's your ram. 2933 is not enuf to overcome the IF shortcoming. You need not just fast ram but tight timings. Even a R7 1700 @ only 3.8 but with 3466MHz of RAM with CL14 timing is able to handle a 1080 TI.
Click to expand...
Being able to handle and never getting fps drops below 60fps are two different things..
 
Hmm my 1070 and 1070ti hit 100% very easy in GTA5 running a 6600k @ 4.6 and the 1070ti still does with my 8600k @ 4.8 running 4k DSR. GPU runs out of gas before the CPU does.

The only thing that kills the frame rate was upping the scailing past 1.250 (you then get close to the vram limit) and I think the grass setting otherwise it was 60fps with a very few dips to the low 50's.
 
z10m said:
They can shove that benchmark up their backside as it's not representative of the real game .
In that benchmark I'm getting similar results but when playing the game fps can drop a lot more.
Click to expand...
I have a 2080 and every game so far I've played has a huge fps boost, especially pubg apex and bf5 over my 2700x.
You need to set your ram up properly, if you get 2933 cl14 then you can do 3200 cl 16 maybe even 3400 cl16 which means you can align the infinity fabric to it, which gets you great gains in gaming
 
Illuminist said:
I have a 2080 and every game so far I've played has a huge fps boost, especially pubg apex and bf5 over my 2700x.
You need to set your ram up properly, if you get 2933 cl14 then you can do 3200 cl 16 maybe even 3400 cl16 which means you can align the infinity fabric to it, which gets you great gains in gaming
Click to expand...
It's a 2400 ram and won't go past 2933..
Had it on my Intel system and every game was maxing out my GPU.
Upgraded to ryzen 8 core hoping that I will be able to run some programs in the background while gaming without any ill effect but even without it it's not great...
 
z10m said:
The problem is that some games (GTA V in particular) can drop well below 60fps which is pathetic really considering its a CPU from 2019 and not the cheapest one on top of that.
Yes I have the latest bios and chipset drivers installed and my ram is at 2933mhz cl14 (can't go any higher as that's it's limit).
Click to expand...

You should be able to push the ram higher. The 3000 series is much better with ram. What ram do you have?

The first thing to work out is how high your FCLK can go. Start at the max which is 1900MHz and boot in to windows. If everything seems fine fantasic. If not reboot and try the speed one notch down. Keep repeating untill you find the highest speed windows is happy with.

Mine is 1800MHz. This then tells you what speed your ram can run at for least latency.

To work out ram speed it's 2x FCLK.

---

So first and foremost come back here when you know what your max stable FCLK is.
 
Last edited:
Are you sure it's a CPU bottleneck? Have you actually confirmed this by checking usage? Are you sure you're not hitting the "high FPS" bug this game has (above 175 FPS I think it just craps out)?
 
DragonQ said:
Are you sure it's a CPU bottleneck? Have you actually confirmed this by checking usage? Are you sure you're not hitting the "high FPS" bug this game has (above 175 FPS I think it just craps out)?
Click to expand...
It's GTA V we are talking here which uses 4 threads so obviously the CPU usage will be low despite the bottleneck.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom