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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Journey said:
Sorry to say that is not the case, as much as I've love it to be true. EPYC (Rome) tops out at 64c/128t, and since TR is just a hobbled EPYC, it could only be a maximum of 64c, if I was putting money in it I'd say they will choose to go no higher than 48c/96t for now.
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You're dead right I miscounted at 4am and came up with 128 from no sleep land :D
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
Yeah that would make sense, would cut latency a lot and be cheep and easy to manufacture.

Now i wonder what they have planned for AM5 when it comes out in a couple of years? Quad channel DDR 5 ram capability perhaps...
Prob stick with dual on the consumer platform but heck what a beast the APUs would be if they were given quad DDR5 bandwidth.
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The APUs always need more bandwidth for the graphics part. But they never give them what's needed.
 
LePhuronn said:
Strap some HBM2 to it :p probably more beneficial on an APU than a full card.
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Anyone for a TR4 APU? 32c 64t with Vega/Navi/Arcturus on the other side with 16GB of HBM2...

I mean that would be one EPYC machine....

I'll see myself out...
 
smilingcrow said:
Surely the real profit is with OEM chip sales as that is the where the real volume is not retail!
Of course the OEMs aren't paying tray price as they are buying millions per year.
If retail sales are so important why did Intel make such large profits last year when AMD has done so well at retail?
Because OEM is where the money is.
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Good point :)
 
Scramz said:
Interesting predictions and talk on IPC.

I am not of the same view though, I think clock was slower than 4.6Ghz.

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I really don't like that PCWorld guy he's constantly talking incoherent nonsense.
oh but we don't know how many cores it has, we can see it is the bench but hey we don't know, there is clearly a space for another die and Lisa already said it will be higher that 8 cores but we don't think 16 cores, clock speed we don't know, and you know, IPC you know its two 8 cores dies so maybe they will do a 6+6 cores dies?, you know we don't and dual channel but 9900K also dual channel, we don't know maybe just 8 cores, clock speed maybe 4.6? because Intel you know, same score, 4.6Ghz, oh... because IPC...............
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Good Grief what a pair of idiots...
 
As my other post, when they didn't know it was 8 cores, despite being directly told it was..... I gave up immediately expecting that level of uselessness. This is why I generally watch absolutely no pc hardware stuff on youtube. I already did reviews on websites years ago and know how utterly worthless many 'journalists' are, now it's even less useful. At least back with websites people had more time to read graphs, found it easier to go back and compare reviews, see data change and be able to call out people. Now if you get a few followers on youtube by talking a lot you can end up getting invited to events and pretending to be knowledgable. both those guys are straight up idiots.

Even the supposedly good channels, Linus, hardware unboxed, I don't even remember the names of all of them, half of what I see is them talking utter crud. LInus gets so much wrong it's hilarious but if people like him that's all that matters, the accuracy of content doesn't matter any more at all, only that people like watching the videos.
 
humbug said:
I really don't like that PCWorld guy he's constantly talking incoherent nonsense.


Good Grief what a pair of idiots...
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After simply reading that extract, I concur.
Not going to watch a video where one of the guys says "you know" every sixth word, and less so if the bits in between contain precisely zero intelligible content lol; I'd rather read easyrider and Dg spout drivel if I'm honest.

On the topic of the IO die, I have read in a few places about the need for shadow tags in the IO die for the respective chiplet caches, reducing that potential latency penalty from two hops to one hop. However, we're likely talking about something that will be largely offset by the increased L3 cache on the chiplets; L3 is supposedly being doubled.
 
What are the chances of seeing more performance board variants this generation like Asus 2 Dimm boards for example? If this chip takes the performance crown for example, extreme clockers would likely be interested.

Just curious :)
 
The thing is that 95% of the users won't appreciate it, and even think that a 6-thread i5 will be better...... Many users will still think the aforementioned CPU won't be good enough. Even I fear the worst.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Ryzen @5.0 GHz and 32 threads will be not "barely beating i9 9900K" but absolutely destroying it in >90% of the applications :D
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That's the joke. Do you not know the story of the Siege of Troy? The Horse? Do you know why a certain piece of malware is called a Trojan?
 
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