I don't know the particular story but my guess is that soldiers were hidden inside and once they entered the place, it was easy for them to take the control over...
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I don't know the particular story but my guess is that soldiers were hidden inside and once they entered the place, it was easy for them to take the control over...
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A few days back I recall reading on here some benchmarks for Forza Horizons 4, and why it showed the Radeon 7 to be "crap". Well, I stumbled across the answer to that; the benchmarks shown were on Ultra preset, but the Radeon 7 was on Maximum settings - a preset that is above Ultra and was made available on Day 0 of the RTX 2xxx series becoming available.
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Yup, they came with an innocuous looking gift, knowing the arrogance of their enemy, and destroyed them with something that they thought was harmless.
Clearly, Intel aren't quite as arrogant, and would not be fooled by Lisa Su's Keynote, but the simmering opinion is that AMD will have taken a huge leap above and beyond Intel with Ryzen 3xxx.
Pretty much. The horse was presented as a gift to the Trojans by the Greeks saying "pah, sick of being sat here for 10 years and getting nowhere. Have this gift, we're off". Of course the horse was nothing more than a vessel for the Greek heroes and troops to slide into Troy, deploy inside the walls and bust the city open from the inside.
Much like AMD presenting an innocuous 8 core CPU to the computing markets that can match the 9900K, but conceals inside it the design and potential for many more cores, tearing asunder the market from the inside.
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So Intel, never look a gift horse in the mouth. Now all we need is a bunch of gaming and other benchmarks to see how good the chips are.
Considering how well my current r5 2600 deals with gaming i would say i'm excited to see what the future will bring.
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Nope.
They never claimed that there wasn't a hidden force inside. That'd be a lie.
Likewise, AMD aren't claiming that the demo we saw is the grand total of their performance. Anyone assuming that it is is as stupid, and probably stupider, as the Trojans. There's more to come, and you'd be a fool to not realise this.
Alternatively, it is a hype balloon.
If I'm Intel, I know which I'd be planning around.
They never claimed that there wasn't a hidden force inside. That'd be a lie.
Likewise, AMD aren't claiming that the demo we saw is the grand total of their performance. Anyone assuming that it is is as stupid, and probably stupider, as the Trojans. There's more to come, and you'd be a fool to not realise this.
Alternatively, it is a hype balloon.
If I'm Intel, I know which I'd be planning around.
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I wonder how the 3700x will compare to the 9900k at max clocks, if they were showing the 3600 or whatever it was, it wasn't boosting all core to the rumoured 4.5-4.6ghz then was it?
They claimed it was a gift and it never was a gift. It was a deceit in order to penetrate inside.
I can't believe you have never heard of Troy. This is Greek mythology.
Close. But actually..
..It was a giant rabbit. And the soldiers forgot to climb inside. All a waste of time really.
They should have in fact made a badger.
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Close, but wrong again.
The rabbit hid eggs that the soldiers of troy had to find, thus luring them out of their stronghold where they were forced to participate in a series of thumb wars to the death.
The one with the soldier slipping inside the rabbit is a different story. Pretty sure it's still about the Greeks tho, those guys were wild.
I do think the Trojan horse idea is valid. AMD don't need to play their hand right now, so showing that they can equal the top of the line consumer cpu from intel (in cb at least) says everything they need to. Come June or whatever, if they announce that the cpu they demoed was nowhere near the top of the stack and they show off stuff that changes the cpu arena entirely, then Intel may be caught off guard. Especially with what seems to be Intel's previous complacent attitude of offering just enough to beat the competition. Prior to ryzen at least.
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I had always thought that AMD could have surprised us with something nice at CES 2019, for example a pull forward of Zen 2....
Now, things are much more serious and June is the most optimist option.
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They seem to be quite on top of managing people's expectations while they work on Zen 2 behind the scenes.
I think it is largely ready. One more revision and to improve the manufacturing capacity and yields.
Given that CES confirmed Ryzen 3 is using the same chiplets as EPYC, is it any surprise now we're not getting the usual March/April release? There's a hell of a lot of binning to do to serve both EPYC and Ryzen CPUs and the silicon itself isn't even finalised.
Although if you don't consider an engineering sample, 8 core, single chiplet CPU matching the 9900K at 30% lower power on non-final silicon to be "something nice at CES" then I think you really need to keep your expectations in check. What we saw in that demo and what the bigger picture is by what we didn't see (i.e. a 2nd chiplet and actual clocks) is possibly the nicest thing we could've had.
Patience is a virtue, Intel have nothing to match Zen 2 for a while yet so a mere six months for AMD to fine tune their beating sticks is a non-issue.
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Didn't Intel say something about completely new CPU's (not Skylake based evolutions) later in 2019 with DDR5? Can't remember for sure but seem to remember something about their stacked CPU's arriving later in the year.
Looking forward to the next AMD cpu's but shame it's a bit of a longer wait that we thought.If they release around June and Intel start making noises about their next CPU's it may put a bit of a damper on things, especially as they'll be keen to try to spoil the party.
Well Comet Lake is a 10 core 14n++++++++++++++++++ Coffee Lake panic attack in response to Ryzen.
Ice Lake/Sunny Cove is allegedly late 2019 with a new architecture on 10nm, but that's laptops. DDR4L support? 2020 for desktop chips? Zen 3 on 7nm+ is due then too.
That 28 core Cascade Lake is DOA, god knows what Cooper Lake (the Cascade Lake refresh) will do because it's still 14nm++++++++++++
So yeah it's a shame we don't get the April release, but it's not like Intel are going to steal any thunder from Zen 2 any time soon.
Ice Lake/Sunny Cove is allegedly late 2019 with a new architecture on 10nm, but that's laptops. DDR4L support? 2020 for desktop chips? Zen 3 on 7nm+ is due then too.
That 28 core Cascade Lake is DOA, god knows what Cooper Lake (the Cascade Lake refresh) will do because it's still 14nm++++++++++++
So yeah it's a shame we don't get the April release, but it's not like Intel are going to steal any thunder from Zen 2 any time soon.