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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Just release the damn chips already! I dont want to wait any longer 
I have a pc to build and im pretty much just waiting on the 3600x to get released....
I have a pc to build and im pretty much just waiting on the 3600x to get released....
They haven't even been announced yet! You won't see anything to actually buy until April.
Are you American?
Just release the damn chips already! I dont want to wait any longer
I have a pc to build and im pretty much just waiting on the 3600x to get released....
I guess it is quite expensive to release them now and this is why we have to wait several months till mid 2019.
The thing is that you can buy everything now - and buy your precious 3600X when it is released, whenever it is.
Then sell your CPU or CPU and motherboard and move to X570/B550.
Was going to ask the same thing
On topic, I'd take the 13% IPC with a grain of salt, Not saying it wont be but people need to keep the expectations in check . I don't think we will see any where near 5Ghz either tbh.
Hope am wrong though
Was going to ask the same thing
On topic, I'd take the 13% IPC with a grain of salt, Not saying it wont be but people need to keep the expectations in check . I don't think we will see any where near 5Ghz either tbh.
Hope am wrong though
You are wrong
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen2-ipc-has-29-percent-higher-ipc.html
AMD 'Zen 2' IPC has 29 percent higher IPC
You are wrong
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen2-ipc-has-29-percent-higher-ipc.html
AMD 'Zen 2' IPC has 29 percent higher IPC
Can't see any benchmarks nor actual specs , My point still stands
Please stop posting misleading "news" story titles. That headline does not follow from a single test result being 29% faster.You are wrong
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen2-ipc-has-29-percent-higher-ipc.html
AMD 'Zen 2' IPC has 29 percent higher IPC
lol, are you laughing or what?
The news coming from Expreview mentions that AMD performed DKERN + RSA tests for integer and floating point units and that resulted into a score of 4.53, that was 3.5 for the first-generation Zen and that indeed is a 29.4 percent IPC. Of course, these are number from the manufacturer themselves and have to be observed with caution as other benchmarks have not been mentioned. So I have to add though, 29% "in certain workloads". Still, impressive.
lol, are you laughing or what?
The news coming from Expreview mentions that AMD performed DKERN + RSA tests for integer and floating point units and that resulted into a score of 4.53, that was 3.5 for the first-generation Zen and that indeed is a 29.4 percent IPC. Of course, these are number from the manufacturer themselves and have to be observed with caution as other benchmarks have not been mentioned. So I have to add though, 29% "in certain workloads". Still, impressive.
Point to the benchmark/Test methodology
Even the quote states to be taken with caution !
Are you seriously suggesting that Zen 2 will have an average IPC increase over Zen 1 of 29%? Because that's what the headline implies.lol, are you laughing or what?
The news coming from Expreview mentions that AMD performed DKERN + RSA tests for integer and floating point units and that resulted into a score of 4.53, that was 3.5 for the first-generation Zen and that indeed is a 29.4 percent IPC. Of course, these are number from the manufacturer themselves and have to be observed with caution as other benchmarks have not been mentioned. So I have to add though, 29% "in certain workloads". Still, impressive.
No. Max IPC increase of 29% or higher. Average can be 15%...
So you agree the headline is misleading? If so, it's probably best not to post it, or at least put a huge caveat next to it.
No I haven't seen a law which states that the headline should mean average values and not minimum or maximum...
Average is very difficult to obtain because you need to take all the applications available. Not 5 and 5 games. That is not average.
Hilbert is that you??? Really that title is utter ********. The 29% IPC increase is only in FPU operations in a specific scientific workload. To claim "it's a 29% IPC increase" is disingenuous at best and an outright lie at worst.
The improvement that's been quoted by AMD literally today was ~13% average IPC improvement over Zen+ (which is actually higher than expected for average IPC uplift).
The improvement that's been quoted by AMD literally today was ~13% average IPC improvement over Zen+ (which is actually higher than expected for average IPC uplift).
Also companies obviously use the best numbers they can get away with so if AMD's figure is ~13% it's probably more realistically ~10%.
Totally agree. I've been working on 10% and 4.8GHz boost for them as the likely targets. Anything more is gravy
Nonsense. AMD still have time to tune the performance.
Maybe not. It has been stated that the Zen team have total freedom, so no targets, just the maximum possible they can get.