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.It was also done with a semi-functional BIOS that froze when they tried to change some settings. I'd say this is an absolute worst case scenario for testing, which is pretty promising given how decent the lower-clocked hexa-core is still doing.
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It froze when trying to do a manual overclock...
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The 3600 is one of AMD's cheapest CPU's so it doesn't quite beat the 9900k. You need one of AMD's more expensive CPU's if you want something similar to the 9900k.
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What's your point, caller? If it froze as soon as they touched a basic setting, then it's clearly not a fully functional BIOS designed for this CPU.
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My only concern is if I can run 4x16GB@3600 memory on a 3900x without having to gimp anything.
you are not taking into count the extra cache the 12 & 16 core parts have. With the new windows scheduler update this may see a extra boost for these parts over the 8 cores using the single chiplet.
Will be very interesting to see the reviews on launch day. I will be doing a lot of reading before I decided on 8 or 12 cores.
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Well, with all the Zen2 cpu's you have tested and posted reviews on already, shurely you already know the answer to your own question.
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If the new windows scheduler made a differnce they would have demo'd that at their keynote.
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You know best iot will be Motherboard dependent hehe
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The scheduler tweeks might not be massive gains but could be enough to push a tied result to AMDs favour.
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It's been well documented that "All" of the scheduler changes won't be obvious to us great unwashed until we actually have a Zen2 cpu installed. But you only have to run any 3dMark benches at the moment to get a very good idea of the difference it makes to both Physics scores and the combined scores.
All I'm saying is that for the moment until we see those benchmarks we can't say 100% can we?
I agree! I was about to drop over 1k on my next upgrade as well!
Why don't either company isolate a single core for single core related things and let it boost into an inferno?
By isolate i mean totally, there are tasks in games that can't be multithreaded and absolutely rely on a single thread being as fast as possible, obviously this means a chiplet, but we're already on this path.
By isolate i mean totally, there are tasks in games that can't be multithreaded and absolutely rely on a single thread being as fast as possible, obviously this means a chiplet, but we're already on this path.
You obviously don't understand how game engines work. Here, is a fine description to read https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/44fux4/multi_threading_in_game_development/ :
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It largely depends on the scale of your game and the platform but generally speaking, all modern games are multithreaded in one way or another. For example, on PC the video driver is generally multithreaded and will have a few threads running. That is probably not what you asked though
Here are the broad categories of things that need their own thread:
- The main thread is called 'main' because it typically orchestrates everything, including the other threads to a large extent.
- The render thread will typically own the display device and will take care of everything rendering related. Even on older hardware with a single core (e.g: Wii), the rendering was often done on a separate thread to ensure it never stalls too long.
- The audio thread will typically own the audio device. This is often a very important thread even though it doesn't typically do a lot of work. The work it does needs to be done in a separate thread to help make sure the audio device doesn't starve and sound remains smooth.
- IO will also often be handled on a separate thread. Most platforms do not support async IO natively and thus most game engines converged into having one or more IO threads to handle async IO requests.
- Networking will also often have its own thread for similar reasons to IO.
- Most of the remaining threads will form a pool for jobs. Many of the above threads often need to perform work but cannot afford to stall or can do other work in the mean time and thus as a way to either speed things up by using multiple threads or as a mean to hide latency by offloading the work to another thread. Job threads fit this bill and there will usually be 1 per free core (main/rendering threads will often have their own core).
- Some other threads remain for system work (e.g: drivers) etc.""
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Yea i still have mine, i also still have the H75.. i have so many bits n pieces around its tempting to build another PC with them
This is good to know, although whats with the BLUE colour?
Needs to be RED!! 
EDIT.. the 2 pics are different lol wtf?
The RAM latency and write performance is messed up in their test (possibly a BIOS issue), performance should improve further if these issues are fixed.