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Interesting part for me is the MTS-B0 stepping. Wonder if that's the release stepping or the pre-release one. We'll see soon enough, but yeah 5.27 on LN2 isn't that impressive.
 
So I see theres a nice bios update landed for my Gigabyte Gaming 5:

F40 - Update AGESA 1.0.0.2 for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ CPU full support

I found the "full support" comment interesting, probably only looking at the 8 core myself but i wonder if thats supporting the 16 cores as well then. That'll make a few people happy if so I'm sure!
 
TrixX said:
Interesting part for me is the MTS-B0 stepping. Wonder if that's the release stepping or the pre-release one. We'll see soon enough, but yeah 5.27 on LN2 isn't that impressive.
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The 3950X on LN2 at E3 broke three benchmarking world records at lower clock speeds? How is that not impressive.

  • Cinebench R15: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 5434 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-9960X @ 5320 points
  • Cinebench R20: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 12167 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-7960X @ 10895 points
  • Geekbench 4: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 65499 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-7960X @ 60991points

Cinebench R20 is over 11% faster on the 3950X, a 16c32t vs 16c32t pushing both to the edge. Very impressive considering where AMD were a few years back.
 
LePhuronn said:
C'mon, that is 16 cores at 5.2. That's not bad, surely? If the 8c models can't hit 5.2 without LN2 then we could have a moan. But then clock speed isn't everything as well you know.
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ChrisD. said:
IPC improvements. Everyone seems obsessed with clock speed and directly comparing to Intel, I don't get it?
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Yes if you think of 5.2 WITH the IPC improvements it becomes a pretty awesome thing. Pity it currently looks like it needs some serious cooling.
 
Scramz said:
The 3950X on LN2 at E3 broke three benchmarking world records at lower clock speeds? How is that not impressive.

  • Cinebench R15: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 5434 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-9960X @ 5320 points
  • Cinebench R20: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 12167 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-7960X @ 10895 points
  • Geekbench 4: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 65499 points
    Previous holder: Intel Core i9-7960X @ 60991points

Cinebench R20 is over 11% faster on the 3950X, a 16c32t vs 16c32t pushing both to the edge. Very impressive considering where AMD where a few years back.
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It's results are impressive, it's the limited overhead for OC that's less impressive. It's running up close to it's limits at 4.7-4.8GHz. Which even though there's a nice IPC improvement is a little disappointing from and OC perspective. Again depends what you are looking for. The results are of course impressive, though there's something to be said for 14nm vs 7nm processor's there.
 
ChrisD. said:
IPC improvements. Everyone seems obsessed with clock speed and directly comparing to Intel, I don't get it?
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I'm not obsessed with clock speed.
I'm well aware of the IPC improvements.
I'm not comparing it to intel.


I'm just saying. If it need LN2 to get to 5.2. there is certainly no hope of 5ghz on air/aio.
Does this make it a bad chip? No. But it does mean they won't be great overclockers like back in the day. Which, we were all secretly hoping might be the case.
 
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That's quite a lot of guff! :D
 
beany_bot said:
I'm not obsessed with clock speed.
I'm well aware of the IPC improvements.
I'm not comparing it to intel.


I'm just saying. If it need LN2 to get to 5.2. there is certainly no hope of 5ghz on air/aio.
Does this make it a bad chip? No. But it does mean they won't be great overclockers like back in the day. Which, we were all secretly hoping might be the case.
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About the same kinda overclockers that ryzen 1xxx and 2xxx were, which is pretty terrible as they could just match what they were auto boosting too out the box and no more really... I guess they are pushing them out the door at their limit to be able to compete?
 
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