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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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R20 is an AVX benchmark. Intel's architectures handle AVX workloads more efficiently than current Zen architectures, but Zen 2 will change that (for AVX-128 and AVX-256, anyway - the benchmark can use AVX-512 as well).
I will also likely get the R7 3700X unless reviews show that manual overclocking is a waste of time and therefore the R7 3800X performs significantly better due to its higher TDP and boost clocks. I have a few motherboards on my shortlist but I need to see prices more than anything.
Caporegime
The WSJ article is literally accusing AMD of being a traitor,by helping China develop a high performance X86 core,when all they did is allow China to use a slightly modified version of Zen. The timing is right dodgy! WSJ also ignored Qualcomm starting a JV in 2016 which lead to the production of an ARM based server core,and VIA developing a series of high performance X86 cores with China for use in server,etc or Imagination Technologies and MIPS being quietly hoovered up by Chinese linked companies.
Soldato
It barely uses AVX though and doesn't use AVX512 at all, just up to 128bit instructions as many have found out. Despite it being on the support list.
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Oh, that's news to me. I stand corrected. Thank you.
But yes, Intel's architectures do handle all AVX workloads more efficiently right now. Zen 2 will change that. Ice Lake will then improve FPU throughout further for Intel.
Bruh I was trying to use BIOS Flashback yesterday on the new C7 Hero I bought and it was not having it. I think I may had made a little mistake on the name of the file so I will try again today. Hopefully I don't have to send the board back :/
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Big launches, and small light weight, high value products are air freight not stuck on a container ship. Believe I've mentioned this before.
asus and Gigabyte and MSI ship ALL boards and cards to NL- then its sent out from their . ask any vendor rep on forum or in post and they'll tell you . Even Bequiet being German based have their Main warehouse in NL .
from there its shipped out. even ocuk have stated all their stock comes in via containers .... whether small high priced items or large cheap items. even Spire, VIP , Target can confirm this too .
Lian Li and In win £2-4k cases are shipped in bulk via ship . dont run a business shipping via air to resellers and distribution if it means triple the costs.
MSI's full launch of X570 to all of EU would fill a Jumbo jet cargo plane, cant see MSI renting one, when 4 containers at a 10% of the price will do it lol
Caporegime
Crikey on that WSJ article people are saying AMD should be boycotted,buy Intel. Bloody eck!!
Caporegime
fanboys in full effect or paid shills that is the question
Might be both,but also normal commentators who think AMD aided and abetted China,when the WSJ ignored Qualcomm and VIA doing even more with China. AMD made one generation of slightly modified Zen CPUs for China. Qualcomm developed a specialised ARM based server CPU for China in a JV which started in 2016,and VIA has made a whole ton of specialised X86 cores,as people have mentioned on this forum. The next one will have Zen performance,DDR5,etc.
The WSJ article literally is saying AMD handed China HPC by giving them X86,when firstly you don't need X86 for HPC(IBM Power,etc),China already has its own supercomputers powered by local designs,and bigger companies than AMD already have developed designs with China. VIA already gave China X86 and Intel allowed them to. So I wonder WTF WSJ is smoking when they say AMD handed the X86 keys to China.....VIA was allowed by Intel to do this from 2014 onwards.
So two weeks for Zen 2 and the AMD smear campaign has already started. It might not be even Intel,but a CTS Labs style hit to short AMD stock,ahead of a massive launch.
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I hope AMD is not asleep again as if anyone tried this with Nvidia their PR would be out at full steam.
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^^^^^ seriously who cares about any of this!!!
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How do you reconcile that with AMD benching 5700XT versus 2070 FE but only statiny they were up against the 2700?
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have a prediction then Zen3 would increase core count to 10 cores per CCX or be able to down size IO chiplet to 12nm or standard 7nm with 3 CCX chiplets at 7nm +
Aorus Social Media lists .... " 16+ cores " just lately ....
Aorus Social Media lists .... " 16+ cores " just lately ....
OcUK Staff
You know this do you??? No they absolutely have not had any high end chips for months!!!! Motherboard Vendors hardly have any CPUs for board development.... So please stop typing this stuff..
Also I saw you mentioned reviews...STOP again at that point... The only true review is you using the product........
R20 is not running AVX512 at all as Rossi says.
putting my head above the parapet, and at the expense of looking more than mildly naive....
I think it's prudent to make your purchasing decision based on reviews, however if we weren't getting close to what we've seen from all the slides, I doubt any one at AMD would have thought it wise to publish actual numbers from benchmarks, much rather just give vague percentage performance increases rounded to the nearest ~10%
Shot down!
Soldato
Anybody who wants to see a semblance of innovation, competition, decent prices and sanity return to the CPU markets?