AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Mensy]

Because it has better speeds and timings out of the box. Also Samsung B die, vs Ballistix using Micron E die

So 32gb over 16gb doesnt really matter ? Its all confusing for me lol

 

[chroniclard]

So 32gb over 16gb doesnt really matter ? Its all confusing for me lol

32gb will give no benefit in gaming, higher speed, tighter timings and lower CL will give a lot of benefit.

 

[Harbz]

32gb will give no benefit in gaming, higher speed, tighter timings and lower CL will give a lot of benefit.

why does everyone assume all people do on their pc's is play games

 

[Mensy]

32gb will give no benefit in gaming, higher speed, tighter timings and lower CL will give a lot of benefit.

Ok thank you i guess i need to read up on memory im gonna need some within the month as im moving over to Amd if the hype is real lol

 

[Simon Belmont]

Why is the GPU clocked 10% lower for the 3900X?

Just wait for real benchmarks.

Does anyone know how much better the single threaded performance will be for higher spec Ryzen 3000 CPUs? Like 3700X? Will these CPUs beat the 9900k by a decent amount, or are the scores very similar?

When “REAL” benchmarks hit after release, I doubt it’ll be faster then 9900k. I bet a lot of these early benchmarks are way off? Hope I’m wrong?

 

[chroniclard]

why does everyone assume all people do on their pc's is play games

Because the majority do, its only a minority of people need more memory for other reasons.

Even then its Ryzen, a slow 32gb kit isnt worth it.

 

[Ross Thomson]

Because the majority do, its only a minority of people need more memory for other reasons.

Even then its Ryzen, a slow 32gb kit isnt worth it.

Frequency/latency makes no difference to my video editing. Tried 2400 cl14 v 3200 cl14 same render time.

 

[tamzzy]

c'mon m8 everything looks better then grey

Lol.
Depends I guess.
I prefer having the innards black (or a shade of)

 

[chrcoluk]

I find this a bit funny.

I posted the effects of tuning my ram on a few games I tested and a couple of people disagreed with me saying there is no practical benefit and my results were psuedo (presumably because they benched in cinebench and believed that applies to games). Aka tuning ram is a waste of time.

However buying faster ram to get the same result as tuning ram out of the box except it costs lots of money is all fine and dandy, sensible etc. Suddenly it seems 3600mhz ram is going to become the new trend for enthusiasts.

 

[8 Pack]

3600mhz just makes sense for this platform... Plug, xmp, play your games....

 

[i_am_jon]

Because the majority do, its only a minority of people need more memory for other reasons.

Even then its Ryzen, a slow 32gb kit isnt worth it.

Still tempted by the Ballistix myself, all comes down to user-case / cost. Cost doubles to go from micron-e 3200C16 to samsung-b 3600C16. Not really known how well the cheaper stuff will clock or the effect on performance with Ryzen 3.

If you only need 16GB the cost difference isn't too much to swallow but at 32GB it's an extra £150+. Don't need more than 16GB for gaming but for some dev work and running virtual machines etc 32GB is worth while. Plus 16GB doesn't feel like much of an upgrade when have been on it for 7 years.

 

[chroniclard]

Frequency/latency makes no difference to my video editing. Tried 2400 cl14 v 3200 cl14 same render time.

Yeah its mainly the gaming side, it did make an appreciable difference on Ryzen and Ryzen+

 

[Alexrose1uk]

No, they won't beat the 9900k "by a decent amount". Be similar, we hope.

Exactly, similar, maybe in some cases beat it with decent memory etc and certain workloads, but probably paste it in heavily multithreaded workloads for around the same cost

 

[beany_bot]

Im toying with the idea of getting another 2 sticks of RAM, taking me up to 32GB. But all I do is game and youtube.... The obvious answer is stick with 16 for now. But then as I have B die I likely wont be able to find matching sticks in ~2/3/4 years time.

 

[michty_me]

Im toying with the idea of getting another 2 sticks of RAM, taking me up to 32GB. But all I do is game and youtube.... The obvious answer is stick with 16 for now. But then as I have B die I likely wont be able to find matching sticks in ~2/3/4 years time.

By then DDR5 will be out surely and you would have moved on to that?

 

[SiDeards73]

Im toying with the idea of getting another 2 sticks of RAM, taking me up to 32GB. But all I do is game and youtube.... The obvious answer is stick with 16 for now. But then as I have B die I likely wont be able to find matching sticks in ~2/3/4 years time.

Im considering this myself, i currently have 16gb of Trident Z 3600mhz C16 and 16GB of Rijpaw V 3400mhz C15, im going to sell the Ripjaws and probably pick up a 2nd set of the 3600mhz C16 Trident Z, but 32gb ram is probably just overkill, by the time i need it im sure DDR5 will be out lol

 

[EsaT]

Frequency/latency makes no difference to my video editing. Tried 2400 cl14 v 3200 cl14 same render time.

Except for direct stream copy cutting&joining video editing is heavily computationally bottlenecked.

32gb will give no benefit in gaming, higher speed, tighter timings and lower CL will give a lot of benefit.

Until that 16GB runs out...
At that point its clocks/latency are as usefull as lawnmover in moon rocket.

With just minimal programs at background 16GB will be fine for year or so.
But once next-gen consoles are out, then memory usage of AAA/big budget games is going to increase.

 

[beany_bot]

By then DDR5 will be out surely and you would have moved on to that?

DDR5 may well be out but I plan on keeping my Zen2 setup for at least 5 years. I wont be jumping straight onto DDR5 for the hell of it.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@EsaT VRam and system ram will be 10GB total i thought ? Havent really checked out spec's of incoming
also GPUs using better compression tech to lower use of ram .

though wouldnt surprise me if EVERYONE will stream on it ... to just themselves....

8GB did run out soon enough , so yeah - can see 16gb getting hit not to long from now

3600mhz just makes sense for this platform... Plug, xmp, play your games....

specially with PBO tweaks , seems everything is take out of the users hand making is extremely friendly !

Still tempted by the Ballistix myself, all comes down to user-case / cost. Cost doubles to go from micron-e 3200C16 to samsung-b 3600C16. Not really known how well the cheaper stuff will clock or the effect on performance with Ryzen 3.

If you only need 16GB the cost difference isn't too much to swallow but at 32GB it's an extra £150+. Don't need more than 16GB for gaming but for some dev work and running virtual machines etc 32GB is worth while. Plus 16GB doesn't feel like much of an upgrade when have been on it for 7 years.

listed not to long ago Ripjaw 3600hz b-die going for £109 ... all cleared now though . lots in stock will AMD mentioned 3600hz

 

[chroniclard]

Except for direct stream copy cutting&joining video editing is heavily computationally bottlenecked.

Until that 16GB runs out...
At that point its clocks/latency are as usefull as lawnmover in moon rocket.

With just minimal programs at background 16GB will be fine for year or so.
But once next-gen consoles are out, then memory usage of AAA/big budget games is going to increase.

Then get 32gb of fast ram.

By the time PC's "need" 32gb for gaming I will be on DDR5.