Isn't the 570 Phantom Gaming 4 a 4 phase VRM board as opposed to a 6 * 2?
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Ok, i'll take it backand yes that is impressive. that sort of massive through-put should help in games.
Well, it certainly caught my attention
It confirms that the architecture and design are excellent.
Oh dear, nvm I did quite fancy that one too and seemed a reasonable price.....too reasonable it seemsNo, i messed up with that... unfortunately that's a much more expensive board, the £180 one look's a bit naff.
. I'll wait for them to drop prices when no-one is prepared to pay that much!
Yeah incorrect reporting by software. C16-C18 no problem 1.4v Samsung... 24-7No, it's not. Then again neither is Cas............................Cas30 at 4000Mhz has got to be a joke though, shurely Ian ?
It would, but back then an Opty 144/146 was an option in your 939 board, try putting an EPYC 7351P in an AM4 board
How much do copper water pipes cost? I do occasionally see them being delivered by Armoured G4S truck but it's the fibreglass resin that is really breaking the bank.Mobo prices are actually insane. £100's of pounds more, Double the price of previous gen in some instances!!
But we are told they have a thicker PCB so it's OK.How much does 1 gram more of copper and 40ml of fibreglass resin cost? 10p i'll bet.
Think of all the layers on the PCB, looks like, smells like, sounds like cash!
It would, but back then an Opty 144/146 was an option in your 939 board, try putting an EPYC 7351P in an AM4 board
I had read about the rubbish audio chip, but if use my xonar dgx like I do with every system , would that make a difference? All I wanted was decent vrm cooling and from what I read, the tomahawk is pretty decent for the price.
It certainly does. It also confirms AMD's term "Gaming Cache". That is one hell of a throughput uplift in L1,L2 and L3 and blows the 9900K straight out of the water.
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^^ Finally, This is what makes sense.
It's what people should be expecting, I've seen loads of people posting around the web about expecting 4.7 or higher all core overclocks & I wonder why they're expecting that? It's not how Ryzen works, As an example my 2700x has a single core boost of 4.375 & my all core overclock is 4.25, my 1600x worked in the same way so when they tell us the 3900x has a boost frequency of 4.6 that suggests an all core target of 4.4 is a safe bet.
I was cynical before but after watching that video I'm a believer with the enthusiasm of a convert. After 5 minutes I was concerned it might turn out differently but no it reallyWhy sell C7H and keep C6H ??? You know I have much better experience with C7H Cause
Everything Just works
does just work. Sort of....
You've really spoiled my very brief party!
My cheap Haswell Gigabyte Gaming 3 had pretty good Sound Blaster Audio, really not bad at all. https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-Z97X-Gaming-3-rev-10#ov
Fortunately for the budget-conscious, the best B450 boards (MSI Tomahawk, Mortar, Carbon) all support USB flashback.
my b450 doesnt but it already has a 2600x in there so I can flash it, use that for ryzen 3 after flash and then buy a replacement board for the 2600x.
my board is rated as able to handle 8 core ryzen 3.
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I get the impression that MOBO manufacturers alarmed at the idea they'll only get one bite of the cherry at selling Zen 2 next gen MOBOs (570x)have decided to factor in three times the profit they'd normally make
from a single board. With Intel they'd be selling a new MOBO every 18 months as the socket changes whereas here they're worried their business might fall off a cliff. It's the only rational explanation for the colossal
price hike and makes perfect sense from their perspective.
from a single board. With Intel they'd be selling a new MOBO every 18 months as the socket changes whereas here they're worried their business might fall off a cliff. It's the only rational explanation for the colossal
price hike and makes perfect sense from their perspective.
It's PCIe 4 that's caused the price increase, server grade 8 layer PCB's, many more traces and signal amplifiers, when Intel eventually stop messing about with 14nm++++++++++++ they will get around to PCIe 4 themselves and you'll see the same price hikes, they are just much more expensive to make.
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It's because of a 12 core engineering sample that ran at over 5ghz.
Or at least rumours of the existence of it, from AdoredTV.
Unsure, their specs say 10, but would guess that'd be 8(4*2)+2.
The reason is because the 570 prices are shocking, the CPUs will do 4.3-4 all core with a core or two boosting to 4.6/4.7 occasionally, the MOBOs that you'd really want for HEDT
are £300-500 and the performance is a bit worse than Intel's best. I don't like typing that but I've been here so many times before and nearly always with AMD. I guess
the little guy tends to lose more often than win in the great game of life. The MOBO pricing is a total fiasco for this launch if what I've seen is true though.
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