Caporegime
@Gibbo said the 7950X was the best seller on OcuK so perhaps not that surprising.
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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***
its marginal gain between Zen4 and 12th Gen as far as gaming FPS is concerned.
13th gen intel will have a line up with the i5 beating the 7950x in games - marginally.
then AMD will bring out Zen4 3DX and take the crown again marginally.
It is getting marginally indifferent now!
13th gen intel will have a line up with the i5 beating the 7950x in games - marginally.
then AMD will bring out Zen4 3DX and take the crown again marginally.
It is getting marginally indifferent now!
Not sure about the i5 claim when Intel's own slide 13900k is barely beating the 5800x3d , and just seeing the average benchmarks on the 7700x
In any case not that it will be noticeable when actually playing
still close
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7950X straight in at No1.
EDIT - Sorry Dons, I had a blonde moment and posted a competitior link it's been removed.
Yes I can confirm 7950X has now sold more than 200 units here alone, no.1 selling CPU, second place is between 7900X and 13900K.
Caporegime
Compare that to the 12900K which took weeks to appear in the top 12, never made it anywhere near No 1, didn't stay long before it dropped out again and has been occasionally popping in and out the back end of the top 12.
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Caporegime
Can you edit your post please to remove the link from my post?
Caporegime
Done.
your mum and dads buying PC for their kids are not going to know about this. the kids might not know about this. AMD should just put this into their boost algo and default to some more reasonable power use or use the windows power plan to say "high performance" (highest TDP) "performance" (undervolting as this guy is doing) "efficient or energy saving" (like cap at 65w or 50w etc).
pretty much what the guy said at the end.
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Less impressive than the PBO2 way. This is definitely losing some of the Zen4 goodness that comes from super high low thread boost. Could be up to 20% in some
Caporegime
That's a good idea...
I know I've pulled the trigger on the 13900k but I'll be honest the more I've been thinking about it the more I think I should prob canx the 13900k and go AMD and grab a 7950x now and drop in a 3D chip when it comes out. Looking at the bench marks today across the board, especially in games like Tarkov and Star Citizen the 3D chips absolutely destroy it seems. Spend out a bit extra on the top mobo now and that should see me through to zen 5 3d and whatever Nvidia bring out in a few years. Also, save a few £ on the energy bill to going AMD with the undervolting.Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
However, the 7700X in that is 19.1% faster than the 5950X, 13% faster than the 12900K, its going to be tight, but when AMD launches Zen 4X3D its going to be a bloodbath...
Just a shame the expo ram and mobo I want aren't in stock
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Caporegime
You know what else is a good idea?
If they had a light wight app that loaded with Windows that has a few basic system readouts like a lot of apps these days have but primarily a series of buttons for different power modes, like for example:
ECO mode 65 Watt
ECO mode 125 Watt
ECO mode 170 watt
High performance Mode
Personal Profile 1, 2 and 3...
It just sits in your system tray so you can open it up, click a button to select from one on the options, sometimes people might like to render a video but on that day they don't want the CPU doing it running at 240 watts, save some electricity and do it under the 125 watt profile, with the way that energy costs are going, and the increasing environmental consciousness among people, it might be appreciated.
If they had a light wight app that loaded with Windows that has a few basic system readouts like a lot of apps these days have but primarily a series of buttons for different power modes, like for example:
ECO mode 65 Watt
ECO mode 125 Watt
ECO mode 170 watt
High performance Mode
Personal Profile 1, 2 and 3...
It just sits in your system tray so you can open it up, click a button to select from one on the options, sometimes people might like to render a video but on that day they don't want the CPU doing it running at 240 watts, save some electricity and do it under the 125 watt profile, with the way that energy costs are going, and the increasing environmental consciousness among people, it might be appreciated.
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or you can use the command keys to change profile with. so when you are in a demanding zone, get that CPU cranked up!
Caporegime
Keyboard Hotkeys, yes.
Come on AMD, you're on the right track with Ryzen Master, change it up a gear.
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Man of Honour
Guys, another quick question. AIO's and coolers, will they be able to fit AM5? Just occurred to me that you might need a mounting kit for AM5, same way you did for AM4
Caporegime
The motherboard backplate is fixed to the socket mounting frame, so technically you can can't remove it, some coolers, especially AIO's require you use their own backplate, that's a problem to look out for, but other than that the mounting for AM5 is exactly the same as it is for AM4, so provided you don't need to change the motherboard backplate it will fit the same as if it was an AM4 board.
Man of Honour
Caporegime
Pins are in the socket, its the same as Intel.
PGA (AM4) the pins are on the back of the CPU.
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Scales pretty well at lower voltages then.
Perhaps he could have tried getting the maximum possible frequency at ~1.2v, and whilst keeping the clockrate roughly at stock.
Generally, which I've heard is that it is voltage rather than temperatures, that cause CPUs to degrade, so I doubt running at 1.2v could be considered undesirable.
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