It needs to happen world wide given the mediocre reviews of zen5, personally I'm loving my 9950x, runs cooler a bit more performance and lower power pull.
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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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It needs to happen world wide given the mediocre reviews of zen5, personally I'm loving my 9950x, runs cooler a bit more performance and lower power pull.
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Yeah seems like retailers are slashing margins just to shift some stock, some of them will have thousands!
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Still not going to be enough to shift stock, why would you want the 6/8 core chip when you can get a 7700 which is practically the same thing but for much cheaper.. not cheap enough for a poor release.
At the same price i would go for the 9700X but beyond that i don't see the value in it, i'm not expecting it to beat the 7800X3D in games, even AMD said it wouldn't, but it needs to be more than marginally better than the 7700X.
So is the consensus to wait a few months for the x3d parts? I was all set to buy a completely new system in August (received some good news and some money) but the reviews seem very average.
For reference i’m on a 9700k with 16gb ram and a 3080. I play at 1440p and don’t use my system for much else other than gaming.
For reference i’m on a 9700k with 16gb ram and a 3080. I play at 1440p and don’t use my system for much else other than gaming.
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purely for gaming them the X3D cpus are the better option.
I also have a 9700K with 32GB of ram and been wanting up grade for sometime but i've either put it off\never got round to it or something like the new zen 5 cpus and then the new motherboards has got me waiting.
Wait for the new X3D cpus and if they are too much then go for the 7800X3D which may go down in price with the release of these, new motherboards are due out at the end of September
AMD's marketing/PR people need to be replaced over this launch. It's obvious that a huge amount of gamers are waiting for the Zen5 X3D release, as AMD have confirmed these are launching 'shortly'.
If AMD had just delayed the non X3D parts launch until the X3D parts were ready, we'd instead have a huge positive red wave hype train across all social media/tech review sites. It then wouldn't matter than the non X3D parts were pretty lacklustre - as these would only be bought for specific use cases outside gaming and at price points that make performance/$ sense.
9950x . Custom water 360mm
PBO CO, + 200
5.4Ghz 1.18v
That puts it a solid 25% ahead of a stock 7950X. At 5.4Ghz, which to me doesn't seem that high.
Clearly they have IPC, are these things just not clocking high enough out of the box?
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That's still +15% vs the 7950X, out of interest can you remember what clocks that was running at?
Just around 5.1ghz I think
I'm reminded of RX 7000 series, the consensus was they would be clocking around 3Ghz, i have one, an RX 7800 XT, it will clock to around 3Ghz, and its ____ quick when it does, its easily as quick as a 4070 Ti, the problem is while its really easy to get it there, and its happy running at that, it requires 300 Watts to get it there.
Stock out of the box it runs at around 2.4Ghz, the same as an RX 6800 XT.
Having said that 300 watts even for my 2 fan Sapphire is not a problem, its more than capable of cooling that, i'm not sure about the stock reference cooler tho, i very much doubt it.
Also.... for that performance its not really much out of norms.
I just find it interesting, it seems to me AMD just aren't willing to push power like Intel and to some extent even Nvidia.
Stock out of the box it runs at around 2.4Ghz, the same as an RX 6800 XT.
Having said that 300 watts even for my 2 fan Sapphire is not a problem, its more than capable of cooling that, i'm not sure about the stock reference cooler tho, i very much doubt it.
Also.... for that performance its not really much out of norms.
I just find it interesting, it seems to me AMD just aren't willing to push power like Intel and to some extent even Nvidia.
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I'm reminded of RX 7000 series, the consensus was they would be clocking around 3Ghz, i have one, an RX 7800 XT, it will clock to around 3Ghz, and its ____ quick when it does, its easily as quick as a 4070 Ti, the problem is while its really easy to get it there, and its happy running at that, it requires 300 Watts to get it there.
Stock out of the box it runs at around 2.4Ghz, the same as an RX 6800 XT.
Having said that 300 watts even for my 2 fan Sapphire is not a problem, its more than capable of cooling that, i'm not sure about the stock reference cooler tho, i very much doubt it.
Also.... for that performance its not really much out of norms.
I just find it interesting, it seems to me AMD just aren't willing to push power like Intel and to some extent even Nvidia.
Wrong thread
The consensus is to get a 7800X3D if buying now otherwise wait a few months, AMD have new boards launching end of September which will probably mean price cuts on the old ones, Intel are rumoured to be launching on oct 10th which may see some price cuts from AMD and also we may see the 9000X3D around this time.
yes, seem to be very conservative in their voltage curve
also, Zen 5 using old IOD is very memory starved, any manual tweak to improve bandwidth and/or latency helps
Can you try ECO 65W, would be good to find out if they do better at low power. 7950X at ECO 65W get ~31K in CB23 and all-core clocks to ~4.1 - 4.2Ghz.
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Its not, its an observation about AMD's apparent attitude to power consumption, that should come across in the post.
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My bad sorry, carry on