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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Boomstick777, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. humbug

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    Windows SMT issue ^^^

    Again i think RyZen will get its chance once more, when the 4 and 6 core chips are launched the reviews will be on fixed and mature boards, and hopefully a Ryzen Windows patch.
     
  2. harney

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    I know..... tbh i think all of us in this thread could do a better job for AMD with there launch ...just 1 month hell even 15 days more time would have helped
     
  3. harney

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    lets hope so
     
  4. opethdisciple

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    5 + years in the making. There isn't really any excuse for the need for Windows patches etc.....

    This should already have be covered with Microsoft in development.
     
  5. labbby

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    hang on he is benching a game comparing CPU's but he is running them on different API's ?
     
  6. Willis

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  7. humbug

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    I'd buy the 6 core now if it existed based on Jokers properly working setup.
    Yes RavenXXX2 i know there are higher Frame rate differences in a couple of places in a couple of runs even in that review, i did see that, but with a 1.1Ghz Clock speed advantage to that 7700K i'm not surprised, and its nothing like 200 FPS, its not even close to 100 FPS... stop trolling.

    The only thing i am surprised about is how in most cases in a completely CPU bound 720P actually the 1700 is keeping up with the 7700K despite a 1.1Ghz clock deficit.
     
  8. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    The thing is there seems to be much less issues with non-gaming software - its almost like they got lots of people to work on that and kind of forgot about gaming! :o
     
  9. RavenXXX2

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    My bad 100 fps.
     
  10. Panos

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    Yes. And on the other games, the GTX1080 on the Ryzen system is taking a nap working at less speed and less usage.
     
  11. SiDeards73

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    If you check reddit he apologised for that and said there was a 2-3fps difference.
     
  12. Panos

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    And the GTX1080 is snoring.

    Why you take as a gospel a completely unreal scenario? Why 720p and not 1080p?
    What was the difference on the most common resolution??????
    2 fps, exactly the same scene at 1080p........
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  13. humbug

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  14. RavenXXX2

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    It's snoring because the zen can't keep up. And yes its perfectly valid way to test CPU performance for gaming removing the GPU as the bottleneck. Of course at normal rez things a closer but it goes to show how far zen is behind.
     
  15. Jon20

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    Those of you who have had items dispatched from OcUK today, have you had a dispatch email? My order for a 1700 says "Sent/ready for collection" but no email as yet. Hopefully it's just being slow.
     
  16. humbug

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    Its snoring because its bottlenecked, RavenXXX2 is right, but he is also hyperboling it, its one game and AMD themselves have said some games need optimising, mostly right now game performance is near par with the 7700K, it will only improve.
    RavenXXX2 is just being a #####
     
  17. alexp999

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    I've neverk own
    If microsoft is anything like some of the software providers I've had dealing with, they wont do anything until after new hardware is launched
     
  18. Panos

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    1080p, exactly same scene. 2fps difference. If we move to 2560x1440 I bet that won't going to be a valid score, because the 7700K loses?
    Look at the CPU usage mate. I can run 2 games on the Ryzen CPU.......
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  19. humbug

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    Yes because at 1080 with some IQ settings the workload is offloaded to the GPU, away from the CPU :)

    Its also real world, so what you see there is what users will experience.
     
  20. Stretlow

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    we need to list a whole host of gaming videos side by side. you cant pick one screenshot in one game and draw a comparison like above, just like you cant say theyre on par... suppose we'll know over the coming weeks