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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Windows SMT issue ^^^

harney said:
There is either something fishy going on or its a motherboard thing joker is on the gigabyte 5 board i see reviews with issues are on msi / asus need to varify this ...

tbh i am not sure what is going on ...its such a shame really as i want AMD to do well as they have something great here with Ryzen but some of these reviews is not doing them any good ...
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Again i think RyZen will get its chance once more, when the 4 and 6 core chips are launched the reviews will be on fixed and mature boards, and hopefully a Ryzen Windows patch.
 
MadMossy said:
For some reason he's done DX11 on the Ryzen and DX12 on the i7 in tomb raider. That just seems extremely odd and obviously will favour one over the other as DX12 is multi-threaded which can be seen clearly with the i7 pegged at 100% cpu most of the time.
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hang on he is benching a game comparing CPU's but he is running them on different API's ?
 
harney said:
lets hope so
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I'd buy the 6 core now if it existed based on Jokers properly working setup.
Yes RavenXXX2 i know there are higher Frame rate differences in a couple of places in a couple of runs even in that review, i did see that, but with a 1.1Ghz Clock speed advantage to that 7700K i'm not surprised, and its nothing like 200 FPS, its not even close to 100 FPS... stop trolling.

The only thing i am surprised about is how in most cases in a completely CPU bound 720P actually the 1700 is keeping up with the 7700K despite a 1.1Ghz clock deficit.
 
opethdisciple said:
5 + years in the making. There isn't really any excuse for the need for Windows patches etc.....

This should already have be covered with Microsoft in development.
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The thing is there seems to be much less issues with non-gaming software - its almost like they got lots of people to work on that and kind of forgot about gaming! :o
 
humbug said:
I'd buy the 6 core now if it existed based on Jokers properly working setup.
Yes RavenXXX2 i know there are higher Frame rate differences in a couple of places in a couple of runs even in that review, i did see that, but with a 1.1Ghz Clock speed advantage to that 7700K i'm not surprised, and its nothing like 200 FPS, its not even close to 100 FPS... stop trolling.

The only thing i am surprised about is how in most cases in a completely CPU bound 720P actually the 1700 is keeping up with the 7700K despite a 1.1Ghz clock deficit.
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My bad 100 fps.
 
Panos said:
And the GTX1080 is snoring.

Why you take as a gospel a completely unreal scenario? Why 720p and not 1080p?
What was the difference on the most common resolution??????
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It's snoring because the zen can't keep up. And yes its perfectly valid way to test CPU performance for gaming removing the GPU as the bottleneck. Of course at normal rez things a closer but it goes to show how far zen is behind.
 
Those of you who have had items dispatched from OcUK today, have you had a dispatch email? My order for a 1700 says "Sent/ready for collection" but no email as yet. Hopefully it's just being slow.
 
Panos said:
And the GTX1080 is snoring.

Why you take as a gospel a completely unreal scenario? Why 720p and not 1080p?
What was the difference on the most common resolution??????
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Its snoring because its bottlenecked, RavenXXX2 is right, but he is also hyperboling it, its one game and AMD themselves have said some games need optimising, mostly right now game performance is near par with the 7700K, it will only improve.
RavenXXX2 is just being a #####
 
I've neverk own
opethdisciple said:
5 + years in the making. There isn't really any excuse for the need for Windows patches etc.....

This should already have be covered with Microsoft in development.
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If microsoft is anything like some of the software providers I've had dealing with, they wont do anything until after new hardware is launched
 
humbug said:
Its snoring because its bottlenecked, he's right, but he's also hyperboling it, its one game and AMD themselves have said some games need optimising, mostly right now the performance is near par with the 7700K
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1080p, exactly same scene. 2fps difference. If we move to 2560x1440 I bet that won't going to be a valid score, because the 7700K loses?
Look at the CPU usage mate. I can run 2 games on the Ryzen CPU.......
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Panos said:
1080p, exactly same scene. 2fps difference. If we move to 2560x1440 I bet that won't going to be a valid score, because the 7700K loses?
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Yes because at 1080 with some IQ settings the workload is offloaded to the GPU, away from the CPU :)

Its also real world, so what you see there is what users will experience.
 
humbug said:
Its snoring because its bottlenecked, RavenXXX2 is right, but he is also hyperboling it, its one game and AMD themselves have said some games need optimising, mostly right now the performance is near par with the 7700K, RavenXXX2 is just being a #####
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we need to list a whole host of gaming videos side by side. you cant pick one screenshot in one game and draw a comparison like above, just like you cant say theyre on par... suppose we'll know over the coming weeks
 
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